Your thoughts on women abusing men and how it is perceived in our society?

Tiger, We see eye to eye for once! That's what I see being said without any real studies to support the theory. But that's ok, women just bare children and by default need protecting. A rather simplistic view. I understand the stance, but it's not the reality of HUMAN BEINGS. We are more than that. We have more control than or realization than most animals. Society says women are weak and need protecting, while men just need to grow a pair and deal with it. I believe(Just my pwn personal belief that I follow and won't push on another unless I see true abuse going on) in treating women with a certain kind of respect that Idon't treat most men with, but abuse is abuse no matter who it's coming from. I certainly will NEVER stand for idly sitting and taking it or giving it.

As someone who has been hit several times by the opposite gender (unprovoked) I still hold that it isn't a gender thing at all. Don't look at it like that. The people that hit me were just assholes and women can be assholes too. Am I defending anyone? No, assholes are the plight of our species and make us look like we never forgot to drop those rocks we used to fight with in those cave days. Maybe a physiological thing, psychological thing, or even an intelligence thing. More interesting than the OP is the cycle of abuse and why in domestic violence situations more likely than not the victim stays with the abuser. They may stay with aunt Sally a couple of days but soon enough that apology and/or flowers come in and they go back to the hands that beat them. Anyway, as for stopping to watch any situations like those, I believe there was a thread that someone made about a year ago that asked if you would break up a fight and honestly it depended if I knew the people involved. but the best thing that could have happened is if someone had a taser handy. And someone with enough balls to perform a citizens arrest until the cops came.

Well, obviously any kind of spousal abuse is inexcusable(at least in my opinion). That being said, I think that the problem is that most people don't really know the percentages as well as they think that they know them. If everyone knew the percentage of men AND women being abused by their spouse, then people might see it as a centralized problem instead of two separate problems.

@Tiger I'm not saying men are worthless per se, but to me men are worth less than women. Let's go back to the scenario where the woman is beating on the man, and the men decides to fight back. I'd push the man off first and foremost. If I were to receive additional information, like that woman is a crazy stalker bitch, I'd probably side with the guy and not be aggressive towards him anymore. But for me, I'd listen to my instincts until I have information that proves otherwise. I guess my view on this is that I wouldn't go out of my way to protect the guy in a public abuse scenario, but I agree that domestic violence is intolerable no matter what sex you are. I'm on the side of the fence where if you are a dude, you're on your own. I only protect women or guys that are being bullied by much stronger guys. I'd like to see a social experiment where a weak and feeble guy is getting physically abused by a body building muscle-woman.

I think on average, it's not physical abuse that a man has to worry about anyways. The whole "instinct" thing kind of makes it like we're just stupid animals. If you want to strictly think on instinct, more power to ya. I however, believe we are or should be smart enough to think on a higher level than base instinct. Would you treat a man differently versus a woman, if it was one or the other abusing a child? I mean, by default you should care less about the abuse of little boys, too. It's not a gender thing, but a societal thing. But, I know I'm guilty of thinking the same way. However, I more than understand the separation of instinct and the fact of humanity.

@Arc As for me I wouldn't go out of my way to protect anyone regardless of sex,size,age or situation mainly due to me being screwed over in the past for going out of my way for others. But that's going a bit of topic. Nevertheless pushing the guy off the Woman instinctively wouldn't being a wise move with no info to back this up. It just makes you look like a whiteknight mangina. Plus even if the guy is at fault there is no telling how'd he react or if he's carrying dangerous weapons such as a knife or a gun, or perhaps the Woman could be carrying a weapon herself and plans on using it against him, which is more reason to not get involved. But hey you do you. Just realize what it makes you look like and what the possible consequences might be. Oh yeah I tend to value men less than women, but I'm trying to change that, I want equality all around. That's another reason I won't help anyone regardless of the circumstances at least I'm treating everyone equal. @Yaasshat much like you I'm pretty guilty of thinking the same at times. Also if a little boy is being whacked by his mom, or sister or some random woman, ppl will likely think he deserved it. I still want to live in a society where boys/men and girls/women are treated equal, but I know that'll never happen. Dude who sleeps with lots of chicks will be praised, while chicks who sleep with lots of dudes will be shamed, if a woman hits a man ppl thinks he deserve it or will automatically side with the woman even if she was in the wrong AFTER everyone learns it, while a man will be punished for defending himself,anyone who attacks anyone for defending theirself(regardless of sex or race) gets zero respect from me seeing as I dealt with bullies and me defending myself got more people to attack me.(Me being overweight got me bullied so due to my size it may have gotten people to attack me after defending myself the sex and race didn't matter, I retaliate ppl come to attack me) Also in Islam women are second class citizens much like men are here in the west. So due to the fact that genders are perceived differently in parts of the world, I can certainly say it's more societal than instinctual.

Arc That last part didn't really make sense to me. If domestic abuse is intolerable no matter what sex you are then why tolerate it as long as it's a woman beating a man? Also I don't agree on the thought that women are any more important than men. We're all of equal value.