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I can't think of a dating site that really is welcoming for females, but then again the only experience I have with that is accidentally setting up a profile as "Female" before I was done editing it, and I got some rather... Disturbing messages. And that was on E-Harmony of all places! Its a shame though, for every person who advocates for women to be treated like humans in the forums, there's like three guys who never post in the forums and only send harassing messages. Alas, society is slow to change, men are designed to want to spread their seed, women have a biological thing called selective attraction, and no one teaches men what to do about it. Hence why the sexual frustration manifests in a "I don't want to try to win in a game I'm not equipped in, so I just want a girl to like me for me, btw that ***** called me sexist and got angry at me for what I perceive isn't a big deal, so I guess all feminists are also *****, since I'm clearly not as bad as what I perceive a sexist to be" kinda mentality, and why we can't get too many females to stay long enough to get integrated with friends and get to know the people who still have the patience, respect, and empathy that women are seeking. And I don't think the guys who opt out of a relationship are irredeemable either. We just live in a society that breeds sociopaths, and leaves the rest of the people with anxiety, depression, and other ruts that are hard to climb out of. (By the way, most of the exhibits in the opening post remind me of like one user in particular who as far as I know hasn't been around for a while.) We could do better, guys. And I'm not just saying that because I wanna advocate liberal rights to get brownie points from the political party that clearly has more women (Just sayin, sorry republicans), I'm saying that as someone who doesn't want my friends and potential romantic interests to get treated like the girls in Creepy Text Theatre! (AKA, Tender) We could create a place where men could show their masculine (or androgomous in some cases) charm in a more constructive and inclusive way. And I would love to give a shoutout to the females who are still here or have been here for a long time. Thanks for putting up with us, you gals are awesome!

While none of the quotes in the OP post are from me, I get the feeling some of the people here are possibly talking about me in this thread. If so, well, I'm not going to apologize for saying what other men think but don't have the guts to say. I respect honesty far more than any of that politically correct social justice warrior nonsense. After all, people don't seem to hear the truth very often these days anymore and it's one of the things ruining this generation. I do 'usually' try avoid saying things that might do nothing more than piss people off or start arguments, but if I feel it should be said then I'll say it. If you want to improve yourself or become a well rounded person that means learning how to deal with criticism and learning from said criticism. Otherwise you get people who have been shelter their whole lives and have meltdowns whenever someone disagrees with them or their opinions. I certainly don't mind being told when I'm wrong if I am, I'd rather fix the mistake than keep doing something wrong. I mean I'm no genius, hell I consider myself an idiot. There's countless things in this world I still know nothing about. It's amazing though so many other people out there choose to live in ignorance and prefer to keep doing things wrong simply because it's all they know. Anyway, that's all a tad bit besides the point. >sheer lack of consideration for a females feelings in general. women on dating sites aren't known to have very much consideration for men. We're treated like garbage to be picked though. No one cares about the feelings of guys who get all their messages ignored, or guys who get mocked by communities like we recently saw with that guy who made the same thread in four or so places (you know the one). That was bad sure, but rather than help him all I saw was a bunch of people making fun of him and treating it like a joke rather than trying to offer any advice/tips. If that was a girl the response would have been very different and trust me, I've met girls on here who were just as bad as that guy if not worse. People here rush to the aid of women but wont think twice about bullying a guy, yet here you are acting like it's the other way around. This isn't even the first thread we had in this exact same style this week, someone already did this a week ago. >I don’t get the game plan. “I am here for a relationship so I am gonna act like trash.” Yeah there's a few idiots here, some of which scare away decent new members but they aren't everyone. You can't blame men or the site for their actions. >Its a lot of…I want this and that in a women, with nothing to offer in return. I noticed this too a long time ago and made a thread for people to share what they have to offer. To no surprise it died with few responses. (I'd link to it but I can't find an option to view threads we've made) Thing is while men are bad at this, women are worse. In my time here and elsewhere I've met countless women who refuse to make themselves appealing to men to the point of finding the very concept offensive. (even now I bet you think I'm a pig for even saying that). These self entitled women are nasty in more ways than I can say on a pure christian website like this but they expect men to just accept them as they are while cherry picking from the selection of men in turn. Men are at least expected to have something to offer even if they're too young/dumb to realize it. Men are expected to be strong confident tall good looking well off financially good with kids and so on (this includes things out of men's control, ie; height). What's expected of women? Not being fat and maybe not be a bitch, and far too often they refuse to do even that much. Sure there's guys who expect women to put out quick, but they're just idiot douche bags who should be disregarded and who don't represent men as a whole. Most guys really aren't that picky, but women most certainly are to an insane degree. Don't believe me? hop on a (real) dating site while pretending to be an average guy and see how far you get. You'll likely be ignored by almost every women you try to contact. >This dating site sure isn’t a welcoming site for females. >Exhibit A: B: C: You can do a lot worse than a handful creeps saying offensive things if you use other dating sites. I'd say a couple dumb asses is a bit better than an inbox full of 30 dick pics.

*ruffles choco's hair* if you want to see what you suggested you could try and make a forum based off that idea and see how it goes. I get where golden is coming from when she made this. I have seen a few users bash women. Not only by forums they make but by jumping on other forums and posting the bash, or harsh opinions on how they think women should be but they don't believe they have to do anything for it. It's true that there are more nice men on here than jerks so that helps taking the sight of bashing on us easier. Even though it is still annoying. Now disregarding the bashing let me go into the unspoken actions I see at times. Even though we do have a lot of nice guys here. I do notice that women who shows good selfies and are known that they are beautiful gets more reactions and attentionon forums or even their walls than someone who isn't pretty or who doesn't want to show all of public how they look. Even by the hearts it shows the pretty get noticed more. While unknown are usually ignored with no response or hearts most of the time. They are mostly invisible on the side lines. Than let's grind it to the personalities. A majority of guys who are looking for a gf only want the sweet personalities cuz for some reason they see it as a safe house with no drama. Every personality will bring some kind of drama. Not every sweet personality will make you feel special and appreciated. Rougher personalities can do that too if they really like the guy, and try to make them feel special cuz the guy is special to the rougher like girl, but I repeat there will always be some kind of drama that needs to be smoothed over by working it out. Even if that personality is practically angelic. Fortunately I haven't come across the really disturbing attacks of nudes, but it is sick that stuff like that exists. No amount of excuses like "It's their primal in instinct for a faster attraction* would make it ok. Seriously. If the woman doesn't ask for it don't show the mushrooms! If the girl does ask than go primal all you want. Means she is ready for the peacock to show off. Permission: girl will swoon and awe. No permission: girl most likely is puking and is scarred at the sight of it.

The discussion here is good and insightfull. Each provide a different view and opinion on this and each of them are accurate as none of these are lies. We all have different perspectives and that should be considered. Both men and women behave at times in a way that does not go well with others and that is life. There should be respect though towards others which should not be forgotten.. Being negative and bitter or plain offensive towards others is just lashing out and not good manners. But some people are like that. In those cases its up to you how you want to act towards them. Though proper tools for actions needs to be there, like a block feature in a website when it is not a irl situation. And on the topic of nice women vs rougher. What most men mean by this is that the woman is not constantly negative, angry or oppressive. A woman can be rough, a tomboy, cool, business like, slightly distant at first etc and thats ok as it is that persons charm. We just hope that the person is kind/nice at the same time. It is not fun to be with someone who just complains or sees the world against them. It is difficult to be with those type of people and can drain or change you in ways that you cant live with. To anyone here both women and men. I hope you do not encounter too much of these mentioned bad cases. It will happen but I hope you can move on and have friends/someone special whom you can talk with to easy any bad feelings.