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echo_coil
@mrkingofspades If I could give a award, I would've given 3 for that particular post. Took the sweet time to read it, and a lot of it is well thought out and thorough. Maybe you should consider opening a political podcast of your own. Would give it a definite watch. You also hit it right in the nail what I have been trying to say with this. --- I think there needs to be checks and balances put in place to keep big corporations out of the pockets of politicians to make socialism work more efficiently, but I also don't trust that to change. Hell, it hasn't changed under our current capitalistic state. I think states and local government still need to hold higher power than a federal government deciding everything for the masses. So, I'll say in closing that my issue is not with socialism and it's ideas, it's mainly the execution. I think it could work with proper changes in place, but I also don't trust the government enough to push for the proper changes to be made. I fear for the current state of the U.S. becoming a socialist economy, but that doesn't mean I lack fear of the way it is now in our current capitalistic society. Regardless of how we progress, I think a lot of things need to change in our government and society. I'm not so hopeful that it will, unfortunately. --- This is going to be a definite favorite political post of mine.
echo_coil
Can we really trust anyone's political holding any position anymore? It almost seems to me that there is a lack of push on anything really, and we go on raving that the "CHANGE IS COMING". Anybody will easily do nothing, if everyone is too focused on the "IDEA" rather then fixing the infrastructure. One day it'll be cause it's "too hard to do". Next they'll say "nah too much work, I like ranting off and not actually doing anything". Finally it be like, "well it's prefect as is". When they have the kind of power to do actually do something. What peeves me off is that people clap to that sort of behavior, and think doing the switch is all it takes. Too focused on the win I suppose.
verucassault
Change has been coming for 20 years and people thought everything was going to be different with Obama. BIG NOPE. To elaborate further, basically since I have been able to vote the hook they use for the general populace is that change is coming, things can only improve, wages will go up, etc. etc. I mean, the minimum wage is still where it was 10+ years ago.
verucassault
The federal minimum wage in the United States has been $7.25 per hour since July 2009, the last time Congress raised it.[41] Some types of labor are exempt: Employers may pay tipped labor a minimum of $2.13 per hour, as long as the hour wage plus tip income equals at least the minimum wage. Persons under the age of 20 may be paid $4.25 an hour for the first 90 calendar days of employment (sometimes known as a youth, teen, or training wage) unless a higher state minimum exists.[42] The 2009 increase was the last of three steps of the Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007, which increased the wage from $5.15 per hour in 2007 to $7.25 per hour in 2009.
chocopyro
Nov 14, 21 at 2:01pm
@mrkingofspades -grumbles- There goes my afternoon. Now I have to go into detail about how you conflated nationalism with socialisms. Guhhhh this is going to take forever to type up and no one is going to read it by the time I post. Hopefully you will at least. I'll be back in a few hours, take care till then.
thepandatyrant
Big Bird for Senate!!! Bring family values back to our government...
mirai_k
Nov 14, 21 at 3:25pm
@verucassault I agree, it needs to go up. Imo if our gov. would make a real effort stop the invasion at our southern border and limit legal immigration to a reasonable level we wouldn't even need a minimum wage, but since they since don't, we do need it. And I know someone will probably point out wages have gone up recently, but inflation has gone up a lot too and given the rate at which we keep importing more cheap foreign labor (for example: the recent flood of immigration from Afghanistan) it won't be long until wages at least level off if not drop. The teen wage needs to be eliminated too. It is age discrimination against adults, since a teen can be hired for below minimum wage. This is especially bad for seasonal labor where a person may only be needed for 90 days anyways. Also, the whole tip system is something that has long needed to be abolished. Why should I have to pay extra for "good service" when I already paid for it in the first place? The only reason it exists today is so companies can abuse it via the minimum wage law to pay their employees less than minimum wage (tipped wage) and use social pressure to force their customers to pay for their payroll costs via tips. It's wrong and I'm sick of it. Worse, some restaurants force you to pay a tip for a group whether or not you get good service and isn't rewarding good service AFTER it is given the whole point of having tips in the first place? Walmart's delivery service tries to pull that crap on you. It adds a tip to your order by default unless you OPT OUT of paying it. I always do so too. I am drawing a line here with this tip BS. I don't pay tips to people who deliver packages from USPS, UPS or FedEx so why the hell should I tip Walmart's delivery service? I already pay a fee for the service so I shouldn't have to pay their payroll expenses too.
mirai_k
Nov 14, 21 at 3:28pm
@thepandatyrant Lol I'd vote for Big Bird! He's gotta be a lot better than the ones we've got now and that goes for both parties.
chocopyro
Nov 14, 21 at 3:36pm
Aaaand cap limit. I keep forgetting MO has one. FML. You know what, I'm not even a real socialist, I'm tired of having to explain it properly, and I'm fucking lazy. I'll do it tomorrow. What's the next topic? Minimum wage? Big Bird? That's more fun, let's go with that.
dyadka_yar
What I don't understand about socialists is that they do not trust the government when somebody like Donald Trump is president. Yet they want the government to run things top down. They didn't ask the golden question, what if they end up with a leader they don't like? For example there was Romanian President Traian Bacescu who approved the use of public funds for his campaign. Then he announced that all government sector jobs will be getting a massive cut to wages. Romania has something like 60% of jobs being under the government. Both these measures were legal under the Romanian government. Yet socialists want a government to have the power to do this? Sorry to break the news to them, but they won't be the ones running the show.
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