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hell_hound7
Imo and this is just speculation because im not God therefore i cannot say for sure why this happens. But God has a plan for both humanity as a whole and as the individual. Humanity is destined to fall as he has prophesied. My hypothesis because again i dont know is he has planned for all of us to live the way that he has told us to live. But he knows we will not listen as we are in the flesh sinful. Its just like having a kid in their rebellious phase. You have children knowing they CAN be good but if they choose not to all you can do is let fate run its course. He can step in to save us but there is only so much he can do like imagine since the danw of man having basically correct everyone on the right way to live life and them just repeating the same things over and over. And you ask us why design us this way. Well same for your kids you dont want them to come out basically doing all the things you tell them to. You want them to have freedom of choice and make their own decisions but at the same time you dont want them to do bad. Now you say why would he design us this way then punish us when we do bad. You also punish your children when they do bad. Unfortunately the people who go to hell wont want to go to heaven. I forget the exact verbiage so correct me if im wrong but it was somrthing about opening hell and the people trying to shut it or something. Maybe that was butchered af but they will be angery toward God.
yaasshat
May 08, 23 at 5:56pm
Panda... If I KNEW my future(Emphasis on knowing before they're even made, as the Bible talks about God knowing us.) child was going to be a murderer,I would CHOOSE not to make them(Don't confuse that with abortion. I'm talking about not even allowing my sperm to meet that egg.), honestly. I mean, that would solve the suffering of others, them AND my pain. I don't want them to be like me, right. But, what I want them to be is BETTER than me. Y'all didn't really answer my question,but I didn't really expect an answer.
hell_hound7
But that isnt love man, love is having faith in something and caring about it regardless of its short comings. You can say if i knew my son would be a murderer i wouldnt have him be born. Maybe thats you, but i sincerely doubt you wouldnt do anything to protect your child because you see what everyone else doesnt see. Sure to everyone they are evil and a killer but to you thats your baby. Thats someone you created with your own hands (figuratively) and you want to believe they are a good person despite knowing the truth. If i told you that your son has 5 years to live would you allow him to be born knowing the outcome? Or hope that they will beat the odds and not be that way? Again you are gonna hit me with but he knows it wont happen. That isnt the point God loves us all and despite us being the way we are he still loves us. We suffer because of our own doings.
hell_hound7
I dont really expect you to accept that answer though. Because people who question it never do. You cant really convince someone who doesnt want to be convinced.
yaasshat
May 08, 23 at 6:39pm
There's a difference in knowing my child and them being a thought.... I said if I knew they would become a murderer,I wouldn't create them. If either of my children becomes something vile, of course my love won't wane. However, they exist. If I, again, knew before they existed, I would not allow them to exist. People literally choose not to have children due to genetic abnormalities that they'd more than likely pass on(Kinda saves them and their possible children from pain, even if they suffer since they can't have a blood child.) and that's the kind of choice I'm talking about... Knowing EVERYTHING before it happens and still ALLOWING(Not making and yet making it happen since you knew before they even did.) it to happen almost as if it was planned that they should suffer. Also, I think this is starting to dilute my original point, but let's see where it goes. I didn't expect you to understand... You're stuck on a loop.
hell_hound7
Well if it sounds like im stuck on a loop its because i am. Any atheist or weak faith person always brings up this argument. "Why would God do this if he has the power not to, why does he save some people not all, why would he allow wars and illness and death." Because he has chosen to do so. Its not as though he isnt powerful and didnt see it coming. Even if he had not saw it coming and it still happened he has the power to fix it because he is God for what purpose does he not? Maybe he wanted us to govern ourselves according to his law and maybe he had decided to put his faith and trust in us as a species to overcome his prophecy. Maybe he wnts us to be stronger in the face of these things. I cant tell you for i am not him. You ask him when you face him and his judgment and find out yourself. Like i said i hope by then you have realized your stance was wrong.
yaasshat
May 08, 23 at 9:04pm
Just say, "I don't know.", Apple Jax. You tried, though. So, thanks for the effort.
hell_hound7
I have said i didnt know, i have said that multiple times. But you keep asking the same question like a one trick pony lol thats why i say its the same arguments made by people who dont believe. Dagger even said so as well.
yaasshat
May 08, 23 at 11:19pm
I know, as it is said "Who is the vessel to ask why it was made or for what purpose?".
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