Religious rants

There is no difference in God's of catholicism or protestant Christianity. What is different is catholicism in itself has been using an actual religion to lead people astray. It probably started out pure as i think it was made by mary and Jesus's brother. But current modern day catholicism is not biblical. Alot of the people who practice catholicism today also practice some blasphemous stuff. 3 of them exist on this site. Im not tryna call anyone out, but their sect of religion doesnt reinforce what they do is wrong. Infact they encourage those things. But to answer your question i would follow The one true God no matter what he decided to do. While i dont believe he would do these things as they stand against all he has set for us. So i guess in a round about way i wouldnt follow, since i would mistake him for satan. Since these are demonic acts. But if it was the actual God i would follow.

I will take the time to point out that in both of Aleph's videos, on why logical thinking trumps following scriptures or giving it credence, it presents that question as a statistically better option. However I am disappointed in Aleph the Mathematician because none of those men made any effort to provide the numbers or present written evidence for their findings. They said "It's common knowledge that ALL religious systems are doomed to fail because acceptance of a GOD is mathematically unprovable. Therefore any decisions made by said individuals are more likely to be a detriment to their well-being and the well-being of others." That being the case, I would like to see how exactly acting on pure logic fixes the human condition? What statistics show being cruel isn't a better system than being kind? What measurements would it take to put all world governments in proper order? Give me the value that answers the age old questions of A) Life's Meaning and B) What Success Does A Mortal Man Bring To A Dying World? One Atheist from Aleph's video claimed an Atheist hospital would save more lives than a religiously funded one. But Aleph as an Atheist has been quoted more than once as saying, "I only care and help others that financially or academically benefit myself." If so than as the representative of Atheism could you academically present why an non-religious medical field wouldn't just as easily choose to let 1,000's die or withhold medicine from everyone not the highest bidder? If money is everything and math states that the planet factually has less resources than it can provide the vastly growing population, would the Atheist hospital feel justified in simply letting those unable to pay die and provide assistance to those with the income to afford? I mean statistics show one should be inclined to ruthless behavior especially if logically the Earth is finite. It's everyone's inevitable fate to return to dust, so what in math states any reason to not act only in self interest? Also it should be equally common knowledge that if the argument of an Atheist is that "I know better than a Theist because a Theist doesn't follow their own doctrine." Then my rebuttal is all you've shown me is that their are clearly other Atheists posing as Theists in pursuit of your God of Money and Self-service. Am I mistaken, Aleph?

@hell_hound7 literally Panda everyday in this chat. 1:37 for the speech which is what I'm specifically referring to. https://youtu.be/20U8WhABy1c

You bring up a good point in my opinion @gabriel_true however, there are many other elements to it. Whether we strictly believe in "logic" or spiritual matters, humans aren't alone in striving to protect ourselves(Even elephants will return to there dead to seemingly mourn.). We argue spiritual matter and logic, but can they not be two sides of the same coin? This is why I may have issues with religion, but not in spiritual belief. One is to do with man and the other is something deeper, in my opinion.

@yaasshat My side of the debate isn't in defense of man made structures (churches) or the institutions of man. I don't side with earthly logic as earthly logic only proves itself righteous. One who claims to only know the end of his own nose sees nothing more than self. The majority if not all of human civilization has been based on self service. What the old testament proved to be true is that mankind has a long way to go to appreciating their true potential and enter a Christlike mindset. The one God himself entrusted in us so that we wouldn't try to destroy ourselves in ignorance. (Cain killing his own brother Abel.) It's our duty to learn how to properly discipline ourselves for the time that comes after the flesh. I don't take this world's math or science lightly either. Mathematics is useful and should be explored. Science is not evil. Scripture itself does not wage war against basic reasoning. I'm not criticizing Aleph or Atheists for having common sense or a sense of self preservation. What I'm criticizing is how one can assume to call forth ultimate wisdom and say "I have never mastered it therefore I don't believe anyone else who has." If Aleph can respect wordly understanding when it proves fruitful and just, then how can he waste his time here playing the role of ignorant teacher? If one has knowledge to give then do share, but if one has nothing outside of contemptuous banter perhaps he would be suited elsewhere more appropriate with that infinite wisdom? Those videos only feature people justifying their personal contempt for others by saying it's in self defense. Coincidentally so too are those in bad faith. If bad faith is met with contempt then how can either side break this cycle of ignorance? That was my question specifically for Aleph, Yaasshat.

I love talking religion. Always have. But because I was brought up in a Christian household, of course I will talk more about Christianity. And although I consider myself agnostic with atheist leanings, the "religion" that makes the most sense to me is Taoism.

I like talking about religions in general. I enjoy the range of social-cultural systems, including designated behaviors and practices, morals, beliefs, worldviews, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that generally relate humanity to supernatural, transcendental, and spiritual elements. Monotheism (believes in one God), Polytheism (believes in multiple Gods), Pantheism (belief that reality, the universe and the cosmos are identical to divinity and a supreme being or entity), Deism (belief that one God exists and created the world, but that the Creator does not alter the original plan for the universe), Autotheism (belief that one's self is a deity), Eutheism ( belief that a deity is wholly benevolent), Dystheism (belief that a deity is not wholly good, and is possibly evil.) Maltheism (belief that a deity exists, but is wholly malicious), Misotheism (active hatred for God or gods), Non-theism (belief in no gods or god.), Agnosticism ( belief that it is not possible for any person to genuinely know whether deities or the supernatural are actually true to their descriptions, or are mere fabrications, regardless of sincerity.) Omnism (respect of or belief in all religions with their god(s)), Atheism (lack of belief in supernatural powers such as deities, gods / goddesses, or messiahs.) and Alterity theism (belief that god is radically transcendent, radically other, to such an extent that god cannot be recognized with any being.)