Political rants

Currently, the virus is an endothelial disease that throws the Renin–angiotensin system out of wack.. its primarily deadly to people with blood pressure issues (i.e fat people) among other things. The viral load and binding efficiency increases with each strain. No telling where that could go honestly. I think its not a matter of IF it could be as bad as the plague but maybe when.. Whether thats sooner or later, who knows. And Yea the vaccine doesnt stop transmission, thats the biggest flaw of it so far, but it lessons the viral load at least.

Thats my thing about these vaccines i feel we should explore more options rather than rely solely on this because if im being honest if this thing is just bouncing around from person to person despite being vaccinated how much longer before it mutates to ignore it? Its like the flu, it mutates every year making the last shot obsolete. This also has the potential to mutate into a deadlier strain. Its already very easy to spread. Flu shots arent even solving the problem anymore just keeping it at bay. I say the vaccine isnt the answer not saying ivermectin or whatever else is king. But these vaccines arent it.

@verucassault I read that as Twitter shitheads

It was never the virus itself that killed anyone (Except in cases with the elderly and immuno compromised) but rather the immune system's reaction to it. In a lot of people, the immune system reacts to it by swelling in the lungs, hence why those who are hospitalized by it get put on a respirator. It's infectivity was always the problem, because that's what allowed it to reach so many of those people. To those of us who do get over it, we usually take a hit for a week, then shit and sneeze it out as nature intended. But the problem is, it reaches those who shouldn't be anywhere near it. That's what makes it more problematic than more lethal diseases like Ebola. If the new variant turns out to be less infectious then who cares how much more deadly it is? Wash your hands and start social distancing practices again. Remember, Malaria still kills more people than ebola in west Africa. Because Ebola doesn't spread as easily. Lethality isn't the only factor when it comes to turn of the century pandemics. So yeah, news can spin it however they want, but just pay attention to the experts who have to know this stuff instead. Even if they use the big words that you have to look up. As always, don't get complacent or arrogant, and don't freak out. It's the common cold on steroids, and although I throw a lot of flack at the boomers for what they've done to our welfare systems and housing market; I'm tired of watching them die because their grandchildren get all nonchalant and go out to a rally. If you know your classic conspiracy theories, the illuminati wanted to depopulate. Makes people easier to control. They spread propaganda about overpopulation and everything. And that was the 90s when there weren't as many of us. (Also, y'all remember from history class when the polio vaccine was federally mandated? They taught that in my hick redneck school.)

So, Im new to this group in general, so hi. Afaik it's not so much the lethality, as it was with Ebola and pervious plagues, but the fact that covid is super super infectious, and seems to mutate pretty fast. Ive also heard that Covid can cause serious complications, like lung and heart damage. Admittedly, it's apparently pretty rare, but still. As for vaccines, Im on the fence. Personally I think most vaccines should be mandatory, as it's children that tend to suffer, but the coivd vaccines were made really fast, and it concerns me. Im still vaccinated, but eh I feel like if the world had just locked down properly at the beginning, that maybe things wouldnt have spiralled so far.

Oh, I agree with you guys on that point. Like Philthesamaraiwalrus said, If we had taken it seriously, we wouldn't have needed to rush the vaccines. And the vaccines we have currently do work well enough, but they shouldn't be a permanent solution. There should still be a national incentive to look into building a stronger foundation. But again, as with anything that spreads through a cough, no vaccine ever could stop you from spreading it if someone sneezes on a table and you sit down 5 minutes later, putting your palms all over it in a drum beat or whatever, then forget to wash your hands when leaving. The moment you touch that door handle on the way out, it's transmitted to the next person. Hopefully they're vaccinated too. Also, welcome to the thread, walrus-dono. Disclaimer, we get overdramatic here, but what happens in the political rants thread should stay in political rants thread. I think we're more or less on the same page there. Lethality is less dangerous than infectivity. I've heard about the lung and heart problems too, but I think that again ties into the immune system's reactions to the virus more than the virus itself. The lungs get inflamed as a reaction to the virus, and that could put some stress on the heart as it makes oxygen and blood flow harder to deliver. Thanks for bringing up the kids though, they often get overlooked.

Yeah, no worries. Thanks for having me.

Speaking of vaccines my pharmacist friend told me some inside info on the boosters for the vaccines. She said that no one in the clinics or doctor's offices get them because they know they don't actually improve or refresh the vaccine's strength against covid. It's just a cash grab by the medical industry to keep money flowing in.