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momoichi
Mar 22, 21 at 9:46pm
so during the Charlottesville attacks that guy that ran over leftist counter protesters wasssss.... doing it for the lord?
hell_hound7
Thats like saying all of this terrorists group that does things in the name of this religion are that religion terrorists. Hypocrisy really. Like when people hated on muslims because one group decided to do things under the name of muslims. They are just terrorists.
hell_hound7
I cant explain it right but basically im saying there is no left or right. Just someone motivated with an idea that falls in a category. They arent a part of the group, merely an outlier with extremist beliefs in the name of that category.
hell_hound7
Best example you dont see trump supporters saying biden supporters tore down buildings and set fires. They say Antifa and BLM. But when people raid the Capitol they are always trump supporters. Nothing else but trump supporters, even when trump supporters argued it wasnt them.
momoichi
Mar 22, 21 at 9:54pm
@mountain_tiger dont get me wrong I'm a proud Irish lass and Ireland deserves her full and utter freedom and what the Irish went through at the and of imperial england is fucking disgusting and largely ignored but the ira of today are just kinda useless terrorists. i stand up with their beliefs, but they haven't freed northern Ireland, and it wasn't the ira so much as the Irish people that protected southern Ireland. the ira helped don't get me wrong, but they alone didnt do it. also I'm not sure if you misunderstand me but I'm not for taking guns away from Americans, that's just impossible to do. i just want restrictions and better systems in place to keep checks on peoples mental wellness and the us military isn't the English military back in 1800-1900. this is the modern united states government. there would be no grind. in this hypothetical where they are going to physically take your guns the government is already gone full tyrannical, so killing a few who refuse to 'abide by the law' will mean nothing. and do you think other countries will care? just look at the blind eye everyone is turning to china. and to end it, never advocated for sane people who have gone through all the checks and balances to own there own gun. but i do think the idea of people owning guns is dumb, but that's just my opinion and who cares about the opinion of a rando on the internet
momoichi
Mar 22, 21 at 9:58pm
@hell_hound7 they didnt say biden supports did it because biden wasn't even the democratic nominee at that time, and while he endorsed blm and said antifa was an ideology (at its core it is) he denounced the violence so if a guy mowed down a bunch of black people, shouted at the top of his lungs 'IM DOING THIS BECAUSE I AM A WHITE SUPREMACIST" then this wasn't politically motivated?
dyadka_yar
I think this is one of the times where I have to disagree with @hell_hound7. Nearly every revolution that has happened in the last 200 years was political terrorism. The October Revolution of Soviet Union was a massive string of terrorist attacks that demoralized an entire nation. You had a political ideology that stated that landowners and business owners were evil and in order to achieve a paradise on Earth these things must be destroyed. What we got was groups of revolutionaries running around murdering land owners and business owners. Same thing in Vietnam. A Soviet defector was in charge of things there and this is how it went. They would use barbers and shop keepers as contacts. If these contacts heard of conversations of people who didn't agree with the political revolution then there would be revolutionaries alerted as to who these people are. The people who disagreed were eliminated. The same thing was seen in Spain, China, Cambodia, Cuba, Angola, Laos, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Romania, Poland, Czechoslovakia among others nations. These revolutions were terrorist groups where they ended up winning and changing the government, aside from Spain where the fascist government won vs the socialists. While it wasn't perfect under the Spanish government, it wasn't like Italian or German fascism where countless would die under the regime, but it was better than the alternative.
hell_hound7
Damn if dyadka said it then thats a huge L for me
momoichi
Mar 22, 21 at 10:18pm
i get your line of thinking, though, pan idk how they categorize that shit either i need to bounce, my brain is mush oyasumi
mountain_tiger
@momoichi Oh okay, just ignore Taiwan like the UN and WHO does. Think over it though, it's an example of a pro-gun society that is also quite safe. It is the example of a society that demonstrates freedom and safety can cooperate. (;′⌒`) Additionally, I provided an example of effective resistance from the cold war era, in which the USA had access to helicopters, aircraft, napalm, tanks, and the soldiers themselves. If you want an even more modern example of such things, the paramilitary movements in the Arabian world still display effective resistance against the USA, such as Al Qaeda and the Taliban. They've been fighting since the cold war, and still fight today. So your idea of comparing the USA to the British of the 1700's doesn't hold up and is pointless for you to discuss. It doesn't matter what the international community thinks regarding a US civil war, in fact I would say it would probably just complicate things if foreign powers did get involved, though they still will no doubt. That's besides the point however. The point is that America will be fighting against itself. Do you have any idea of how devastating that would be? How millions would starve due to the gradual break down of logistics from the sabotage and destruction of infrastructure? Do you think the rules of engagement will be so simple as to just shoot any citizen with a gun? These are rhetorical questions because it is unrealistic to expect someone like you to ever think about it. If you could imagine the USA had trouble in the Arabian sphere, imagine how much trouble they would have in their own homeland where their own people want to kill them. Don't forget, even if the US government "wins", they still have to govern whatever survives such a conflict. Even those in the military and law enforcement professions understand such things would be difficult to deal with. There are already police officers getting PTSD from the civil unrest of 2020, do you think they will fare well against people just like them? I'm not even sure if you're being genuine with me, or if you are just "fucking with me" in this regard. ¯\(°_o)/¯
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