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bunniebun @bunniebun
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bunniebun @bunniebun
Gudmoore its cool i understand, we both want the same things we may have different points of view but i think we would agree on the basic rape is bad and lying about being raped is bad
Gudmoore @gudmoore
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Gudmoore @gudmoore
Definitely. Both are awful acts.
Wesley-sensei @a_wesley_g
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Wesley-sensei @a_wesley_g
You can really tell a lot about the quality of a persons character reading the comments in this thread, and frankly I’m disappointed.
I wholeheartedly agree with Teacup. If you haven’t experienced it yourself you should keep your mouth shut because you don’t know jack.
There’s at least four sides to the truth in every situation. There’s his side. There’s her side. There’s the truth from the outside perspective. And then there are portions of the truth that exist outside of everyone’s perspective.
If you’re ONLY considering your own side when you open your mouth, then don’t. Because you sound like an insensitive ass.
I’ve read some really insensitive, self-centered, and stupid comments here that make it obvious certain people can’t even comprehend the kind of emotional and psychological damage that rape can truly cause.
First off, rape isn’t the same as sexual harassment... They shouldn’t ever be lumped together. They aren’t the same and shouldn’t be treated the same.
What this thread was started over was a sexual harassment case, where the person in question was admittedly never hurt or raped.
And yes, there are instances where people make the accusations falsely. And yeah, you can ruin a person’s life just by falsely accusing them. It happens, and it’s truly a shame.
And you’re right. Surely claims made after years and years have passed should be looked at with more scrutiny. But that’s not a reason to simply dismiss them outright.
There’s a little thing called a lie detector test. No they are admissible in court, but you can still volunteer to have them done if you truly want to prove your innocence. If one person passes and the other person fails, it’s pretty obvious to everyone around you whether they are guilty or not. It’s even more obvious if someone refuses.
I’ve forced someone into taking the test and the results speak for themselves, admissible in court or not.
For you guys that think they should be reported immediately. Yeah, they absolutely should. But there are reasons people don’t come forward that you would never consider. But the two biggest are embarrassment and shame. It’s not something you can just come forward and talk about.
Guy, consider this. If you got ass raped or was forced to give another guy a BJ. How big of a hurry are you going to be in to admit it. Try imagining having to explain it in detail to dozens of people. To your parents and friends. Try to imagine what it’s like to have to live with that afterwards. Whatever you’re imagining doesn’t even come close to touching how it really is to go through it.
It can take people years before they’re able to admit it out loud that it happened, let alone talk about it.
You can’t allow a handful of people who abuse it, to take the voice away from people who truly are victims.
And Gudmoore... You’re a piece of shit for what you said.
Dr. Kichigai Seuss @kichigai913
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Dr. Kichigai Seuss @kichigai913
I haven't read anything past the 3rd page. I will get to it eventually.
I did, however, read this last one and the thing about lie detectors is it's not reliable which is why the government doesn't consider it admissible. It's also the same reason why MAURY has a TV show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEZTt_Ciiws
Wesley-sensei @a_wesley_g
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Wesley-sensei @a_wesley_g
Yeah, they aren’t perfect... But if you’ve ever personally seen it done, the processs is very intimidating, and most people don’t beat it.
In the instance both people pass, then it inconclusive. But if one person completely fails. Even if you can’t use it in court, the people around you that matter will still believe you and have your back. It can prevent accusations from ruining a good persons reputation.
You might still get away with it if you’re guilty. But you aren’t going to fail if you’re innocent. Either way, if you’re innocent, it shows it.
@Gudmoore and thank you for proving your a dumbass piece of sh*t. Because only someone who is total trash would say something like you did.
Gudmoore @gudmoore
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Gudmoore @gudmoore
@Wesley:
Thanks for proving my point about you people and your high horses.
"says a lot about people's character"
Lol, you can go fuck yourself and your grandstanding ass. You're nobody. You've just shown us you don't know dick about lie detector tests. If you don't know much about them maybe you should take your own advice and keep your mouth shut.
Let me add that the accuser was on anti-anxiety medication, and such medication screws up lie detector tests.
These days those tests really don't mean shit due to so many people being on medications that affect the lie detector readings.
"if one person fails and another passes it's obvious they're guilty"
No. Just fucking no. That is not how this works.
And you Wesley are an egotistical cuck and a top tier idiot. Probably a future rapist as well, you male feminists always seem to turn out that way eventually.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/10/10/feminists-shouldnt-trust-the-men-who-call-themselves-allies/
Weird right? It's almost as if... Male feminists think playing hero will get them laid, then act bitterly when it doesn't work out like they thought. Hm...
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Dazai @dazai_osamu
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Dazai @dazai_osamu
@Dr. Kichigai Seuss Thank you for pointing that out, was going to do it but saw you got there first :D Yeah lie detectors are stuupid, most people here would fail due to being nervous even if they're being honest.
CrossBones @crossbones
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CrossBones @crossbones
Victims need to speak up and report as soon as possible. None of this months or years later bullshit. It's their fault if they don't do so. May seem an asshole thing to say but that's just how I see it. I just think victims who speak up months or years later are full of shit. Sure, the victims could be in shock but being in shock shouldn't take that long to report. It's ridiculous and I feel no sympathy for those who do that.
Bryan @brydacote
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Bryan @brydacote
Note i didn't bother to read the 10+ pages of this thread, just the first few initial comments. So my response is more to what was said then. Perhaps someone already pointed this out but regardless.
I know a few rape survivors very well. One being my mother, another being my most recent ex girlfriend, and a variety of other friends and family whom I know had been raped. That said I also know a few people who have falsly used the rape charge just to cover their own reputation.
For a lot of legit rape survivors, coming out with it is very difficult emotionally as well as legally. Legally besides the difficulty in producing evidence, most times the rapists are essentially protected by the courts (US courts, I can't speak for other countries) because even if the rapist is successfully tried and convicted, if they are put into the public prison system then that is pretty much a death sentence since other inmates will find a way to kill the rapist. Even the convicted have morals a lot of the time. Plus many prison guards will blindly turn away if its a rapist being murdered in the prison systems. Doubly more so if the rapist raped a child. So the courts give them very short sentences and are put in a private prison so to protect them.
As for the emotional side of things, many rapists will manipulate and/or threaten the victim in some manner preventing them from reporting them to the police. Perhaps something along the lines of "if you send me to jail, then my income will no longer support you and your family" (I'm using this one as a real life example since this is something my mother went through when I was young when we had a "friend of the family" living with us and working as a caretaker for my father)
For male victims, their "pride" as a male is often the reason why male victims rarely come forward. In soceity guys are more likely to be mocked in regards to sex, so a guy coming forward that he was raped only to be mocked for being weak by his peers or the police? You an see why.
It can be the same for women. A woman comes forward and sometimes people will call them liars and sluts looking for attention, ect.
So in the case of Kavanaugh's victims (or other rape victims who's cases had happened a long time ago) it can be reasonably seen why they hold off on coming forward.
Also the reason why a bunch of people often step up to speak of what happened to them from someone who is famous, after one person speaks up, is simply a matter of courage. Basically other victims will see another publically coming forward and think "they are very brave to stand up after being so violated, why am I not doing the same thing? I should speak up too. Show that this person who raped me and that person is a true monster and should be punished."
I can see why in the case of Kavanaugh it could be seen as political opponets trying to destroy the Trump administration. I don't want to get further into that can of worms since I'm not keenly following it. And plus political arguments have the tendency to loop violently.
I could go further into this subject, but I don't have enough time in the day lol
I just wanted to put my 2 cents.
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