Do you feel like in all the time/years you been here that you never felt truly part of this community?

@MKraft I don't know if this captures the reality of the situation but I get the feeling that nothing on the administrators end is going to change anytime soon (As we never really here from him about what he wants to do aside from bug fixes).

You know, you can throw out all the ideas you want for change, but change starts from the top. Most dont pay a dime to use this site, but they still want to complain about not getting things thier way. Want change? Gotta convince sephiroth first.

That feeling is what I'm getting too. Personally I'm not upset about it but would like a few features / tweaks on things but not in the way that the purpose changes. To me this site is in a way a natural setting but instead of looks we initially interact with behaviour and ideas/interests. By having this kind of format you might find people who you like to talk about without outward pressure. The thing is that one needs to go out here too and be a bit active. To reach out to those one sees interesting and to throw some of yourself there that others see you too. Each one of us act differently but one thing is for certain which is that being passive/lurker will not change anything in ones current situation. If a person is fine with it then no problem but if there is a need/want to change then one needs to step out from that hide spot.

if this was 100% dating site i would leave. people would act like they are cool when really no one is. you know what i mean, people posting on ech others walls because they are popular. someone probably already said this in a better way. but that my thought

Well, now that the rum and vodka are out of my blood I found out what I didn't like about the proposal. The problem would come from the people setting up everything. It wouldn't be from hand selected moderators but just form normal joes. This would just lead back to elitism. I don't really care about elitism as long as they're actually good at what they do. The next problem would be that we don't have enough tools on our end to shape the site to make both parties happy. The site really needs a front and center dating section with tools that filter out the things you want. It would need to be better than the sad tools that we already have. The next change would filter out people you don't want for EXP: 1 find only people that want to date. 2 find only people that want to find friends. This will make it very clear to people whos in the market and who isn't. Then for those that just want to lurk and be friends they can have a part of the site that is traditional to this as its just a social spot to chill. The problem with the site now is that its way to hard to find people that are looking for the same thing in terms of relationships. Some people are what you're looking for but they don't want to date. Others are unsure of what they want and so they try to have the cake and eat it too by just saying they're looking for friends and a possible date. This, however, leads to stagnation and a spot that most people find secure. Most people here are insecure and so they end up never moving once they sit down. I suppose the smarter people see the site and go " that's a sinking ship" and jump before they get sucked into the same trap many have fallen into. The site just doesn't support growth for new people and even those that are here. If your goal is to find someone then don't put any bets here. Take your schmeckles and bet them elsewhere. Until this site can support the right tools and middle grounds for new and old users it won't provide adequate growth. If you just want friends and are lonely then I suppose it's alright here. If I may drop some advice for noobs. Just go out and meet people and tell them your favorite things. Be outgoing and tell people what you're into and what you want. If they think that's weird then F em there most likely insecure and you don't need them. Your success rate may be higher than here. If you're really desperate keep a profile here and try to attempt the mud pit and maybe you will get lucky.

@sirug idk people already do that here and they form like little cabals and shit. It's kinda odd. Those people are best ignored the same with women and to a lesser extent men that take all the hits they get as some kind of popularity trip. You will get people that say they're looking to date but they just want to be validated by people and so you get the attention whores. Like I said this already exist but it's just less noticeable due to the way the site is set up. The best thing to do would be to just ignore them and the site should keep those things limited to other peoples view. So don't share wall posts and how many hits it get's to other people. The site should also have a clear social area and a dating area. This wild wild west find Waldo game this site has going on only reinforces still waters and people to go into primitive tribal social states.

it would be cool to have a media area for memes and videos. then you could make it only bring up pics or only videos. that would be for people that dont post in the forums but post pics and stuff on walls. options are good

PK, I honestly dont see how it cant be improved, good luck.