I must have been 5 when I first started to feel that the world has no true meaning or purpose. With every realistic theory of reality, it carries no end game and a meaningless form. I started to see the world in a state of gray over any black and white. The scale is always moving and will and can never land on pure good or bad.
I see the world in a nihilistic way and other viewpoints that I have yet to find a word for. I had an early developmental period and had a stash at about 7. I've always been different from the others around me. I grew up early due to other reasons but didn't realize how much until about a few years ago when reflecting on my younger self.
So when did you guys realize that you grew up and that reality is a state of illusions?
Do you hold onto ideological views or imagination of how the world is structured? Do you prefer fact and logical data over placebo ideas of hope?
I had a really happy childhood. From all my childhood I must have 10% negative memories that I can still recall. I can even say that it was perfect.
When I was 11, I changed school because of problems. I started suffering some bulling during 3 years.
But I had some few friends, life wasn't so bad, I was just living a bad time, and I knew stuffs would get better.
When I entered High School was when stuffs got even worst. I started having identity problems, didn't understand why I wanted to date girls, my grades started getting worst, etc etc etc.
I was probably 15 when I fully realized that life doesn't have purpose, that I started to realize that trying to be happy was pointless.
I realized really late, but it was because I wanted to be naive for a long time, I was scared to realize that everything was pointless.
And I wish it was later, because all of a sudden my life was shattered apart and I felt into depression, but also scared of dying cuz I once knew happiness.
When someone mentions that "life has no purpose" is easy to point them as a depressive thought, but that's just how is it. I'll enjoy my life the best I can, and archieve goals the best I can.
I don't need to overthink greater meanings of life, that got me stuck in a period of depression, so I'll just move forward.
Sounds interesting but it's nice to know you had a happy childhood. I suppose it's different for everyone but the grass is always greener on the other side so I think you would still be upset if you found out later. Do you not take meaningless with the realization that it's freedom. Meaningless = freedom and meaning = restrictions and tethers to a structure.
Ignorance is bliss but most intellectual life would most likely turn away from it as it means losing freedom but others may choose it because that means they have the power of choice and an illusion of hope/security.
I suppose humans are slaves to the chemicals and electric synapsis that make us want others. I don't suppose liking a woman needs an explanation other then it has no survival purpose. I would fret about that but I'm sure your over that by now.
I suppose it could be one of the more depressing views and I bet most people that view the world that way are depressed part to worldly and social restrictions preventing them from experiencing total freedom before there gone. Also, some wish that there is more after they're gone or that life can continue with purpose even if they're not in it.
Yeah, it may be the best option for some to not think too much about the topic as it could lead to more problems and questions with no answer.
I know for me I stay up all night thinking about this stuff all the time and even when working and drawing it runs in the back of my head. No, escape for me but it's not too bad I've been dealing with that for as long as I can remember. Consider yourself lucky to not have that tape run on an automatic flipper. I can only hope you have an endless list of achievements and goals as I fear for those that run out of them or they can't get that one thing.
I honestly prefer to leave this kind of discussion to thinkers and the like, myself I don't really care whether life has a meaning or not. I'm on this planet, so I might as well do something interesting with my time here.
The only big change I made was when I decided to cut away from christianity and started to label myself as a believer rather than a follower of any particular cult. A believer because I believe that a higher power exist, but whatever you choice call It (God, Allah etc...) it doesn't matter. Every religion is pretty much a spin on the same ideology.
Yes, sometimes it's best to just leave it to the people that spend their time to construct and breaking down ideas of reality or ideological views and just point to them and say that their ideas are what aline with my own.
Religion is a strange concept in of its self but also a reasonable construct for its time of creation. I suppose it's meaning is of structure, rules, and safety like that of a parent. It allows people to play the part of a child even though their adults and in times of great stress turn to this idea of government and security. The idea that bad people get there and that justice can be served even afterlife and that good behavior is rewarded even when no human is around to see it must be a euphoria for some.
I respect people and their power of choice and ability to choose any mindset and or belief but I always see a pattern in the people that choose to follow the steps or ideas of religion. Most are troubled and feel the need to have someone when they feel no one can be around to help. Note that this is not an assumption of you but just me talking about the types of people and how your comment about religion sparked my old interest in it XD.
So I know this girl that after getting pregnant and soon after got dumped by the guy, started to go crazy with the religious posts. She seems almost alone and desperate along with fears and uncertainty. All her posts seem like she needs to pray to her lord and reposts every Jesus chain share scam. It's almost too sad to watch but I can't fix her mental state and it could do more damage to try and get her to be more self-reliant or red pill her. A complete system shock could hurt her but I also don't see this reliance on her belief to be healthy and people like that easily get indoctrinated into cults.
Now being religion and all would you say that she is in a bad spot or do you think she could pull through on her own like you did? Or did you not have a religious reliance like she did and you can't relate to her?
Around 12, Then I grew out of that phase around 16. While it's true, Life may have no meaning at all on a cosmic scale, It's not true, that it has no meaning at all, Because we give life it's meaning ourselves. Because we give everything it's meaning. Meaning is a made up term we use that are important to us as a (And possibly only) intelligent species. Importance is a thought process that only exists because of us. Otherwise, the Universe would have no meaning, just Stars, planets and blackholes floating aimlessly until Heat death. So while it's true, Life technically has no 'meaning' Neither does technically anything else, So we give things meaning ourselves to begin with. So in turn, Life only has the meaning that you give it. Happiness is the same. Why let it bother you if it doesn't matter, Being depressed, fucking sucks. I'd rather just be happy if everything doesn't matter, because why the hell not? It's far more pleasant.
I also used to think everything was grey. That's not true actually. At all. If you want to go purely by a scientific point of view. Morality only exists in our human minds. That means, there is no right or wrong, or even middle ground. There's only existing. However if you agree that morality does exist, at least in a philosophical sense. Then there is such a thing as a truly wrong, or right. Rape is wrong. Violence without reason is Wrong. Torturing children is Wrong. These are things that non-negotiably wrong. Therefore, There are also things that are Good. Such as a raising a child that's parents abandoned, or Giving a homeless person a meal for free out of your own pocket. While the world is certainly not pure white and black. There are things that are just Fact, Good and Evil.
Religiously, Why not? I'm a self identified Catholic, even though I don't fully believe in a book that has been translated over a hundred times, purposely changed multiple times. So I just follow the core philosophy. While it isn't perfect, No culture is. And no culture is created equal either. As goodness goes, The amount of charity that the Christian Religion gives to others is some of the largest in the country, and definitely religion wise, As the U.S. is concerned anyways. Why not believe life COULD have meaning, I mean, Even if I'm wrong it doesn't change anything, and If I'm right, than it's fucking awesome. Sure I could go in life, moping about, Believing in nothing, But that is no way to live, rather bite a bullet, than just survive for the sake of it, Especially considering this life is temporary, so it doesn't matter how long you live in it. Because it will always end either way. Therefore, Might as well be more positive than negative.
My view never really changed. I haven't had any profound realizations about life as a whole, it's only ever been realizations about general human behavior that's changed my Outlook a couple of times.
I take the extra steps to observe fact rather than sentiment, and so I feel I've always been beyond the general perception of the world as seen by my peers, since I was in kindergarten up until now.
But I'm an optimist. I'm an optimist, not because I want to have warm fuzzy feelings about the world, but because the world is generally full of good things, and most things follow a positive trend.
Whenever you thought "I don't know if more bad things are happening or it just gets reported more often", well, bad things in the world tend to happen less often as time goes on, with minor spikes here and there, so you probably have an answer there.
When I was homeless. I thought I would die but I just got mental problems instead. I was a teenager