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Why women should take risks and responsibility

epsilon_52
So uh, men have been hoping for this to happen for ages, and a lot of ignorant people perpetuate the kind of people you're complaining about. But depending on the woman you meet all you can say is "Bitches right?" it's just how it is. Same with men; we have some cunts or unlikable traits regardless of gender my dude. Sometimes women will use their version of "Bitches right?" to convey the same thing. You can't change people and culture is just a pretty set in stone thing. Just meet a tomboy or something, or find someone that appreciates you being blunt if you're too shy to make the move in the first place. I myself still find it scary to make the first move when it comes to sexual things, but that's when I'm IN a relationship. Though, everything else you literally just get better at, reading for signs/hints and the like, or you just ask them lol. You can't change culture but you can change yourself, get some experience or pay attention to finer details more. Whether they realize it or not, women like that; confidence and attention to detail, the small things. I say this having an extremely shitty history with women and relationships, btw. Get better at avoiding and spotting shitty people and you can use all the skillsets and "dominance" this culture expects of you when dealing with women. If it's not a shitty person they likely won't scream rape they'll just signal or tell you to back off. If you get a girlfriend just drill it into her head that she can make decisions and have an opinion, etc. Likely if you're with someone they will at least change that for you and feel safe around you cause they know you won't judge them or care/react in the way they fear you will. Either due to their own anxiety or cultural standards they decide to follow/believe.
goldenepitaph
I didn’t have the time earlier to read through this all this cringey banter. ….Spring break is now upon me. And honestly I still think its beneath me to read through this. Say what you will but keep in mind…Not studying this post. Maybe you should learn to get the point or…Make your writing more entertaining…I dunno. As for everything after my post, sure I’ll read it. First: I show true weakness by assuming, yet you yourself are making assumptions based on…Literally nothing in comparison to all the information you’re lacking on me. Was my summarization wrong? You’re sitting here complaining and generalizing both women and men, because you don’t like the things they do, because it creates in inconvenience for you. In short…. You’re just blaming women for you feeling unhappy. In short: "It's _____________'s fault I'm single. If they chased men down, it would totally solve everything.” Word bank: Female, girl, women. Second: The point of the post is tell everyone how you think everyone should be so you can be comfortable in life. To tell everyone what you want in other people. To tell everyone your way. Because that what you want. You aren’t encouraging anyone. You aren’t solving any problem. At most I can say you are…..Attempting? But that’s generous, and even then the only problem you are attempting to solve is getting women to chase after you. Third: But you can’t just get to the point and say that, you gotta…Rationalize your desires somehow, back it with “evidence” aka things that inconvenience you. Its more like you are watching people drive cars with square bricks and criticized them for doing so because when you call a taxi you get to your destination much slower. You don’t REALLY care about how the people themselves feel, you are just looking out for yourself. For your comfort.
goldenepitaph
In addition to not caring how people feel. The way you describe this issue…What do you think this issue is? A stubborn weed you can just pluck out? A pest you can just swat at? You speak of being close minded, without any thought yourself. I am pretty sure that’s just one of your default responses. Instead of jumping straight to: "It's _____________'s fault I'm single. If they chased men down, it would totally solve everything.” Word bank: Female, girl, women. Why not start or at the very least address the root of the problem? Which is why do women act this way in the first place? Oh my bad you already did that, its because they are stupid, inefficient machi- I mean people born with low self esteem, insecurities and fear that all just comes standard. Flawed by fate, we can still be fixed though we are so broken. …Like I said, you don’t care about fixing anyone, or helping anyone. You don’t care, why women are hesitant to take risks, why they are afraid, what their insecurities are and why they feel that way. How they were brought up. It all just a big inconvenience for you. You’ve got opinions, we’re all entitled to them. But lets not get carried away, no one died and made you king of anything, no one has to please you. If you cant be bothered to ask why; you’ve no place to go out trying to fix anything. Hate to break it to you, as innocent and full of good intent you are as you draw out maps for us. No ones lost.
infernalmonsoon
https://i.imgflip.com/1s7t3p.jpg Sure I believe if a guy or a girl likes someone then they should be honest and upfront with their feelings but we can't tell people what they can and can't do in these sorts of situations because it's up to them to decide how to handle things in life, if it works for them then it's nobody else's business. Our life experiences shape who are and how we approach our obstacles, that's why everybody is unique and different. So getting angry and upset at women for not handling crushes the way you want them to is just sad and isn't helping anybody, if anything it just drives them away from you all together and paints you in a very negative light, especially since these people can find love just as easily as anybody else once they've met the right person. Just be respectful, let them be and search for someone else more compatible.
taiyou
To be honest, some guys don't take risks either. I know that after a couple of "girlfriends" i started taking my time more. My last official girlfriend was 10 years ago. And while I AM lonely, and depressed sometimes because of that loneliness, at the same time, I know that i am not like a few of my friends who have "settled" for the man/woman they married. Some of them have problems, though some of them have worked out too. Can people be more upfront? yes. Is "hinting" a very ineffective way to get your crushes attention? of course. These are things that are just normal. it isn't just biology, it isn't just upbringing, everyone doesn't welcome the thought of rejection, and while i have had the experience of females who said they were interested but never really said anything i also know that at times it is the male who didn't even attempt either. A guy can go up to the girl and say he likes her, girl isn't interested. Girl becomes interested later, but the guy doesn't seem interested anymore. So moves on. Humans as a whole are inefficient, because we aren't computers. After all, the scenario i just mentioned, can sometimes be the other way around. If we want to have efficiency in love life, then we could always have arranged marriages again...
siruboo
we could do it like animals and fight over a girl
goldenepitaph
Why are your replies so long... (I usually dont bother people who write paragraphs but come on....) Oh man... You couldnt get to the point any faster? Or make a TL;DR? Selfish. Just selfish. Like usually my replies look long when I type em on word but when I post them it ends up being shorter than I thought. But yours are still just as long some how... Lemme get someone to make a TL;DR for me... hold on.
goldenepitaph
This was a hard one...But TL;DR You haven’t said anything new. You could literally not of posted that and it would of been the same. Wouldn’t have made any difference in the argument. This is why I didn’t want to read the entirety of what you write. There’s very little substance in anything you say. I realize it hurts your feelings, but I am not sorry. Gonna continue to not read everything. It’s dumb that you are judging my person based on me not wanting to read everything because…At the end of the day. I could of just left that part out. Or I could of just said that I read everything. I could even just say I read everything now, and that would be the end of that. Its an empty statement. But…You thinking I am weak minded is just irrelevant …Because its an empty statement…So gonna TL;DRing over here. Love that shit. That said, I went back and read your initial post (to give him the benefit of the doubt and all) and now I am REALLY not reading the entirety of things you write here. Every statement you mentioned…Is incorrect. Which I already knew, hence why I didn’t want to finish reading it (If you want me to break it down let me know). Women do take risks almost as much as men, and they are very often shot down and criticized for doing so. Women are generally brought up not to go chasing after men,(if you didn’t already know this) lest they be labeled as sluts and what not. While men are generally brought up to go get the girl and “be a man.” So blaming women and biology and all that other crap is…Incorrect, if anything it was what society wanted. In this day and age though, those things are lightening up a bit. But they are still very much there. Parents don’t really want their daughters hanging around guys; they let go eventually of course but not after instilling a good amount of caution. Which makes plenty of sense to me. Yeah maybe I don’t want my daughter acting on impulses with strangers. Yes women do take risks, and their risk for danger is much higher than it is for men; socially, psychologically and physically. The female equivalent to a ladies man; a whore. That’s the way it is. Shit its even in hentai… >_> girl starts liking it, girls a bitch. The main issue in your whole argument is that…You aren’t a women, and thus it seems because of that you have no sympathy, empathy or even a willingness to understand why anyone does what they do. (men or women I am guessing, with that attitude) The mood of your posts suggest women are not even human. Just a convenience that wound up inconveniencing you. You keep comparing them to machines for some reason. The general topic suggests that despite what you are trying to advocate, you wanna sit on your ass like a women and get chased. That’s what the goal is. “Hey chase me sometimes too.” And lets not forget that you are addressing an issue that’s not even an issue. But I gotta say…The biggest flaw in this whole argument is that, you are only using your own personal experience for a topic targeting an entire half of the human race. Otherwise you might of noticed that women DO take risks, responsibility and what not. And PLENNNTY of men do not take risks. And though you tried to prepare your cop out by mentioning that you weren’t referring to only women. Literally everything else aside from that one line, says that you are. Nice try. (How are we oblivious to this, when we are on this site?? The majority of guys describe themselves as shy and quiet and don’t know how to talk to girls ect) Things like this.; Too many fallacies like that make someone not want to read what you write. Not sorry. To make things worse all of this is really just common sense at the end of the day. I can’t understand why you are so oblivious. Your argument is rooted from nothing but personal experience, you aren’t a women, and you struggle to get to the point. No I am not gonna read everything you say. Not sorry. TL;DR Lack of general knowledge on the topic, inability to get to the point, repetitive; reasons why I am reading about half way #I am not sorry#TL;DR#You suck at writing#If you cant write why would you expect someone to read it#Fundamentals#Common sense#I am gonna go eat some catfish and save Dalmasca#FFXII#If I wasnt on spring break I wouldnt be here#He's doing that thing where you laugh for no reason#He's disintegrating EDIT
john_felix
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jtibbs
I cringe whenever someone says they "could care less." when the proper phrase is you "couldn't care less. Example: I couldn't care less about what Loligagger's opinions are. :)
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