Religious rants

the story of Moses was part of the reason i started noticing weird things like there was no promised land pretty sure Moses made that up after all what kind of promised land requires you to commit genocide in order to claim it? When talking about Moses people only talk about the first half since the second half makes him look pretty bad. First of all they got lost and started starving on their way to the promised land, then Moses went up to talk to God and create the commandments while his people worshiped a golden calf in hopes of the calf somehow giving them food which he then killed 3,000 of his own people for doing so and not repenting because God supposedly told him to. Then they find habitable land and kill the people there in the name of God to claim it because it's their supposed promised land which to me doesn't even sound like it resembles the land Moses had promised. I reread the story again when I was i believe 17 and that's when I took more notice of these things to me it just sounds like Moses could have potentially been practicing witchcraft and then used the name of God to gain power and influence

Yeah i do remember how it spoke of moses performing actions and it being replicated by the "wise men" or sourcers. These things have been something where im like hold up these appear kinds strange. I do know prior to the flood witchcraft and magic existed. As for the promise land im not exactly sure because im not that far. I only read that he slayed the israelites after telling God himself to repent because he wished to smite the ones worshipping the calf. I believe alot of things are missing. Which is why we need to look at outside sources and line it up with the bible. To explain things further. I believe there are other documents omitted from the bible or not yet discovered. The catholic church also decided what was canon. Yes some stories of the texts found were fake or written by heretics which were later discovered by archeologists. But i still believe alot of what the bible states is true. We are just missing bits and pieces. Like why does God refer to other gods and why does jesus say God is greater than him if he is God. Its kinda hard to understand thousands of years worth of text and history.

These are all valid things, so while i believe in christianity myself i can understand the nonbelievers point of view. This is why you look things up. Enough exists out there for you to inform yourself. When you dont know the answer you look. Not only the first or second answer but the answers over time as thkngs change.

Meh... They did A LOT of sieges in the old testament. My favorite was when they were told to kill everyone, but keep the girls for themselves.

Well i mean you basically only had clans at that point there werent really huge nations and stuff. The population at this time wasnt really that big. Plus the incest rule and everything it make sense why they wouldnt slay the women. But i just find it weird that people like to argue due to this all religion should be written off as if we dont do the same stuff in this day and age. You think if war broke out they dont take the women? Plus alot of these nations got punished for their misdoings. Likebhow the arc of the covenant was stolen during war and then retured after they were struck with plague. Ornhow israel was allowed to be decimated by two nations after disobeying god and it wasnt until this centurey they became a nation again.

They were told to kill even the little boys, that means babies too(You'll cry about abortion, but this is ok? Oh, God told them to.). And how do you think they found out if the women had sex or not(They could take those who were virgins.)? I'll give you a clue, it wasn't by a gentle questionnaire. Keeping children was a form of indoctrination as well as, of course, free sex slaves. There's never a mention of doing so for population or to curb incest.lol It's conquest. Simple. Edit: The point is, it was commanded from God. It's not an easy write off, there.

"The Hebrew term herem found, for instance, in Joshua 6:17, refers to the total dedication or giving over of the enemy to God as a sacrifice involving the extermination of the populace. It is alleged that the God of the Bible is as barbaric and cruel as any of the pagan gods. But this assessment is simply not true. If the critic would take the time to study the Bible and make an honest evaluation of the principles of God’s justice, wrath, and love, he would see the perfect and harmonious interplay between them. God’s vengeance is not like the impulsive, irrational, emotional outbursts of pagan deities or human beings. He is infinite in all His attributes and thus perfect in justice, love, and anger. Just as God’s ultimate and final condemnation of sinners to eternal punishment will be just and appropriate, so the temporal judgment of wicked people in the Old Testament was ethical and fair. We human beings do not have an accurate handle on the gravity of sin and the deplorable nature of evil and wickedness. Human sentimentality is hardly a qualified measuring stick for divine truth and spiritual reality. How incredibly ironic that the atheist, the agnostic, the skeptic, and the liberal all attempt to stand in judgment upon the ethical behavior of God when, if one embraces their position, there is no such thing as an absolute, objective, authoritative standard by which to pronounce anything right or wrong. As the French existentialist philosopher, Sartre, admitted: “Everything is indeed permitted if God does not exist…. Nor…are we provided with any values or commands that could legitimize our behavior” (1961, p. 485). The atheist and agnostic have absolutely no platform on which to stand to make moral or ethical distinctions—except as the result of purely personal taste. The mere fact that they concede the existence of objective evil is an unwitting concession there is a God Who has established an absolute framework of moral judgments."

Soooo... Is that a yes to raping and pillaging? Just gonna justify it like you tried to by saying we would do so in war, now? Just curious.

Bravo, this person said it magnificently. If God allowed what he deemed evil to occur without repercussions, then what is considered justice? If God doesnt exist we are left tonour devices and as represented in today's society. The TRUE religious figures advocate against all that is evil. Such as child exploitation and torture and killing. Because lets be honest who determines this is the moral thing not to do? Society? Lets remember the romans had Colosseums for blood sport with slaves and such. You gonna tell me they were a bunch of barbarians compared to society today? Get real.