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Mountain Tiger @mountain_tiger
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Mountain Tiger @mountain_tiger
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The point is to diversify or "home-grow" manufacturing so that no single nation can deny services and cause a great shortage. Overreliance on an hostile power to manufacture goods is not a good thing. The CCP has already demonstrated it's willing to seize assets from US companies when it feels like it, why should the USA consider that an acceptable risk to save some money? How exactly is it good for the USA to contribute to the wealth of a nation that sees it as an enemy? As the saying goes, "the capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."
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αlερh-2 @alephy
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αlερh-2 @alephy
Small and large corporations are well aware of the risks. But guess what? Both small and large companies still take that risk. Because at the end of the day. Companies both large and small don't really care about this nationalistic nonsense. All companies want to do is make money. Your basic argument is. The enemy shouldn't make money. Enemy make money bad. The enemy has the biggest population, second biggest economy and has vast global influence. China is going to make money whether their enemies like it or not. The same goes for the US. The US is going to make money whether their enemies like it or not.
αlερh-2 @alephy
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αlερh-2 @alephy
What's the alternative?
A) Go to war. More like nuclear war.
B) Tariffs? Trump tried that. How did that work out?
C) Stop doing trade with China. Because of the size of their economy. That ain't happening.
It's a very complex quagmire.
Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
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Disdain for Plebs @nebelstern
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Disdain for Plebs @nebelstern
Portugal made this route in the XVIth Century. They passed through the Cabo da Boa Esperança, Cape of Good Hope in Portuguese.
Mountain Tiger @mountain_tiger
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Mountain Tiger @mountain_tiger
@alephy
No, the basic point I am making is that the US shouldn't rely on the PRC for manufacturing. The risks of the US having it's assets seized by the CCP is in support of ending this reliance. The idea of contributing to the enemy's coffers is only secondary to the primary idea. Of course, the USA is so intertwined with the PRC that it would be difficult to deal with them at this point. The least the US can do is move away from relying upon the PRC for manufacturing. This is the point I think the US should start with. This is why I brought up the concept of "diversifying" or "home-growing" manufacturing to reduce the damage the USA would take in the event of conflict, armed or economic.
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Panda-kun™ @hell_hound7
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Panda-kun™ @hell_hound7
Ok then but how do we incentivize these companies to bring their manufacturing back to the US when labor is so cheap elsewhere with less strict regulations. They can practically have slave labor in china and then flip a big profit as long as china has a say in their business.
Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
@hell_hound7 the answer is we dont bring these jobs back, we instead outsource to another country with cheap labor, like India
Panda-kun™ @hell_hound7
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Panda-kun™ @hell_hound7
Yeah but how do you do that? We have no say in their business and if china is basically able to just steal all their ideas because of the established relationship they will just sell your product cheaper.
Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
i leave mountain tiger to explain that ;;;>w> (I'm clueless with most foreign stuff)
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