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nice. i havent seen it so no spoilers, but they wrap up the series good?
godspell @godspell Bro I cried man. I cried for disenchantment and venture bros
Lamby @momoichi awww. good to hear they end deservingly. you busy or do you mind me ranting about spiderverse :>?
godspell @godspell Disenchantment last episode is literally called goodbye bean. And it really is like damn man. And venture bros explain so much of the main things like why monarch hates Dr venture. Ok what are you mad about in spider verse it's legit a masterpiece
Lamby @momoichi oh nice. you had a theory about that right?
godspell @godspell My theory is Dr venture and the monarch were brothers. Also my theory on disenchantment that mop girl is the true queen of dreamland
Lamby @momoichi brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. master PIECE OF SHIT MAYBE. jk jk jk jk. im so mad because it has so much potential! WHY DID THEY GIVE SO MUCH SCREEN TIME TO SPIDERGWEN?! WE COULD HAVE USED THAT TO FLESH OUT SPOT! BUT INSTEAD, SPOT WANTS TO KILL SPIDERMAN WHY?! his dialogue just makes us think hes jealous of him, not that hes some homicidal maniac! that comes out of the blue! miguel is hardly even a side character despite so much importance being put on his character, and spidergwens story/problem IS LITERALLY SPIDERMANS PROBLEM! WHY ADD HER BULLSHIT WHEN ITS THE SAME ISSUE JUST FOCUS ON HIM! GIVE HIM THE SCREEN TIME! THEY SPLIT IT FOR NO REASON!
godspell @godspell Ok you are absolutely wrong on that matter. Spider Gwen has always been the major player of both those movies. In the first movie we had miles and Peter b Parker story. For the second it was Gwen and miles story of growth as a person and Spider-man. Spot is an incredible you have no idea how much better he is than he is in the comics. When he was announced as the villain comic people were like I guess. He's a d rank villian. He's so weak and pathetic. He's a guy who feels spiderman got everything handed to him
godspell @godspell He has powers. He can be praised. He has a family to go back to. Friends. He can have a normal life. He can't. He got the short end of the stick being a freak with spots. His family disappeared on him and he can't have a normal job. And he thought miles would see him as an equal since they were created together. But he's treated as a joke. And with an unstable mind he seeks more power to traverse the multiverse to kill miles parents to give him the same feeling he has. That he's not a joke
Lamby @momoichi spidergwen is a main side character in this movie. she wasnt a main side character in the first, she was just a side character. why give her this much focused screen time when she could have her own whole ass movie, her comics are good/long enough to fill two movies EASILY. you can give more depth to their romance without showing her life in her universe. will we even be getting a spidergwen movie now that what would be the main climax of her own movie, her father finding out her identity, is SHOVED into this one? its like watching two different movies, there are no parallels, just straight copies from eachothers issues (mom and dad finding out who they are)
godspell @godspell Miguel was perfect for his role as an antogistic force. He was so happy and go lucky in the first film. But when he lost his family he trained himself to be the ultimate spider man and he is. He seeks the cannon marvel has written for all of them or not the multiverse will collapse due to his guilty conscious. Miles was the first anomaly thus causing the multiverse to be strained so he might blame him for the loss of his family
godspell @godspell Of course there are parallels the movies are the same. Miles and Gwen suffering for the same consequences they have gone to keeping their secret from the people they love.
godspell @godspell The intro the best thing we could have seen. In my opinion this movie can be seen through her eyes and miles easily.
Lamby @momoichi yes, spot was fucking AMAZING in the beginning, and his design by the end was sooooo kooooool and i love the hapless villain becomes the biggest menace. im so mad at this movie because of the potential, all it got right just makes the wrong more apparent. but whhyyy would spot want him dead, and i ask again, why did it seem like he didnt want to kill spiderman in the beginning? why suddenly midmovie this happens? he envied spiderman, yes, but spot didnt seem so violently deranged that that would make him want to kill him. they should have added a scene where spiderman taunts him, makes him really feel less than, and then make spot be like 'ill show you'. and youd have time for that if you let the spidergwen stuff be its own movie
godspell @godspell I don't think he wants to kill spiderman. At this point I think he wants to make him lose everything first so he understands how he feels. Keep in mind he could have killed them all when he transformed
Lamby @momoichi miguel was great, loved him, hot af, but i wanted more. hes THE driving factor in this movie, but he was barely in it. that chase scene was like 20 minutes long. why. this movie has the worst time management issues. and even the art! it was gorgeous at times, but so fucking cluttered at others. the 'heartfelt scene' gwen has with her dad was so busy, i was too focused on the background to really be in the moment. the first had the perfect about of animation, but this one cant stay still
Lamby @momoichi they are the same, they do not parallel eachother. its two people have the same problem. why? can you tell me what that added to the movie, except that spidergwen gives him the bad advice of keeping his secret to himself? which she could have given anyway, we didnt need their fight for that to happen.
Lamby @momoichi also they gutted her band! her band was the maryjanes! wtf!
godspell @godspell I think the art was perfect. Like spider punk was amazing. His Frame rate is slower than the rest so it personfies his anarchy beautifully. Every world every spiderman had their own style. The background were perfect. Why not? Other spiderman giving advice to other spiderman is such a big deal they all know what they're all going for
godspell @godspell I think Miguel was perfect. He'll have more to do in the next movie. I love him and Peter b Parker bc he was there for him when he lost his family
Lamby @momoichi spiderpunk was a feat of animation. there were so many other examples of just groundbreaking pieces and moments of animation, like spots design in the end. so reminiscent of anime big bads. perfectly ominous. ill also compliment the movie by saying; i thought miles not being his universes og spiderman was dumb, unnecessary detail. until i saw the ending. and it became a HUGE DEAL and was a really kool plot twist. speaking of plot twists, himself being a villain is so kool, i cant wait to see that more fleshed out (though i have my theories). bbuutttt the main issue with the movie was time management, and giving spidergwen far too much room in the story for what? nothing that wouldnt be more suited in its own movie, because her story is so much more interesting than miles
godspell @godspell I think it was perfect because remember they gave us bits of it in her backstory in the first movie then fleshed her out. Plus the movie was gonna be one movie only not two parts. But they accomplish it. Made it a spectacular movie that can be watch by itself. It doesn't feel like a part one at all to me. Even her relationship with Hobbie and miles. This movie really teaches you consequences and moral weight of being Spider-man. Like they even put spectacular spider-man cartoon in their the biggest guy who's gone through it all the goat of cartoons.
Lamby @momoichi but why? what did it add to miles story? and no way, it absolutely is a part one movie. it ends with the protagonist in danger, thats not a clean break ending thats a commercial break ending
Lamby @momoichi aahhh yes! it tries to get into morals, but it doesnt. why not have miles be a dick to spot, belittle him, be haughty and give spot a reason to want him dead. give miles a reason to think 'wow, not only did i accidently make his body weird, i also harassed him into being this way. this is kinda my fault.' instead of making it purely accidental
godspell @godspell Yes it is. Both characters have grown throughout this whole movie. Their personal issues have been addressed and resolved. Miles has the strength to be spiderman bc of all the values instilled to him by his family. Enough to where he's willing to tell them he is spiderman bc he trusts and loves them. Gwen was running away from all her problems and finally ends up confronting those issues and prioritizing what she cares about and what she's willing to fight for. Because the spider corps knows what they are doing is wrong but they have no idea what to do
godspell @godspell This upcoming movie is the peak growth of miles and the consequence that will befall him for choosing this path. Also saving the miles prowler bc he was suppose to be spiderman not our miles. He has to work together with him to defeat the sinister six. Gwen has to come there to save him. And ultimately save Miguel soul and get the spider corps back on track
Lamby @momoichi this is a story about miles. if something happens in her story, it should be a motivating factor to his life, or used as a narrative device to hightlight or contrast miles's struggles. so how did spidergwens story add to miles?
godspell @godspell Of course it's motivating. Bc it propels her to save miles bc she realized there is another way. And that she should have been working with him not stopping him because she doesn't want to be alone and chose the corps
godspell @godspell I have no idea how you can take a perfect movie and say it has potential. Even though there's hundreds of videos essays discussing why it's perfect stand alone movie
Lamby @momoichi propels her to save miles? how so?
Lamby @momoichi because it just wasnt perfect. the first was better. hell, ill say it, fuck it. puss and boots last wish was better. there. i finally said it. and im tired of pretending it wasnt.
godspell @godspell Puss and boots is nowhere better than spider verse. They're their own separate and need to be kept in their categories. Because I can say it that dreamworks copied spider verse style. A lot of studios have done so even tmnt
Lamby @momoichi as far as enjoyment? story cohesion? last wish wins. spiderverse tried to juggle too much and ended up dropping a few balls.
godspell @godspell The only reason people are saying that because the movie was 2 hr 30 minutes. That's why they say that. They didn't drop shit
Lamby @momoichi oi oi oi oi oi oi. i sat through all of beau is afraid and smile. iv sat through a lot of long ass movies and did not come to the same conclusion. this isnt a 'it was too long' issue, this was a 'they didnt use those two hours properly' thing
godspell @godspell So many people say the first is better because the second one was too long. Not enough action though
Lamby @momoichi really?? all i heard over and over was how the second was better. my hopes were sky high! hell, i said as much! that everyone was saying the second was better! and i personally dont need constant action, and the action we got was well choreographed. but i dont think spidergwens personal bs was necessary, and spots homicidal motivations are nonexistant.
Lamby @momoichi why not make spots motives that he just wants his body back? something understandable, but the only way to possibly get his body back could lead to utter destruction? which spots willing to risk, but miles wont. something that doesnt make him like 'im calm and a nerd and trying to steal but and now for no explained reason im a vengeful amorphic blob of ominous static.
godspell @godspell I think the second is better. It addresses what I want. What are the consequences of being spiderman. What does it take to be spiderman. How much does family influence your life. You see all these different spiderman and all their different issues. We have spider India he was living life great no issues for 6 months but he's suppose to lose his Gwen and captain. Miguel loses his family because all he wants is to be happy. Spider punk only there because he wants the spider corps dismantle because he knows there are stuff wrong with it.
godspell @godspell Spot doesn't need to get his body back theres no possible way. His body it's own dimension. And he doesn't want to kill miles. He's gonna kill his dad and ruin his city he loves
godspell @godspell He basically wants to take away everything from miles to make him feel how he feels. He has never stated he was gonna kill miles in the whole movie
Lamby @momoichi but what about miles personal life? what he'll be doing after school? i just feel like theres so much ground that could have been covered if we got rid of spidergwens personal stuff AND SLIM THAT 20 MINUTES CHASE SCENE TO 5 MINUTES TOPS! add more miguel scenes, show how fascistic he can be in more than just one scene. fuck i want mroe from him. and as far as i recall, they dont explain how he concocted that interdimensional league of spidermen all on his own. becauses thats intelligence that even spidermen dont have. hes the only one that achieved this apparently; why? maybe this was explained and i didnt see/remember.
Lamby @momoichi ok lemme ask you this; was he this hellbent on his revenge in the beginning of the movie? if so, what showed this, because all i recall was him saying how spiderman is so lucky. he was angry, yes, but not bloodthirsty
godspell @godspell It was explained. Miguel started the whole thing. Like I said before he is the ultimate spiderman. He's the most intelligent most powerful spiderman. He's more spider than human bc of his DNA. Miles school life has already been set out. He wants to get into the top physic school instead of art school like he wanted because he wants to see his friends again.
godspell @godspell Spider verse is still genius. Bc you watch the first one when miles meets spiderman his green and purple to red and blue. It's because his fate in destiny had been changed
Lamby @momoichi hes the most intelligent and most powerful? wait they actually state in the movie that he has more spider in his dna? and i know its set up in the movie, but i wanted more. more of his teenage angst. showing him balancing being spiderman with the sky high expectations of his parents was great, i wanted more. so, isnt miles 16? spidergwen is minimum 18, so kinda weird them being together. also, nitpick, but why didnt miles dad try and arrest spiderman in that one scene? hes way too chill about a criminal hanging around him.
Lamby @momoichi genius? the only clever element i saw was them making miles being an anomaly in fate being the only kool part, but even that id never call clever.
Lamby @momoichi oops, i did kinda misuse clever xD its kool, cute, but smart? creative id give, but even that feels wrong since marvel is AAALLLLLLL about interdimensional shit, so it isnt original by any means. hell, interdimensional societies are pretty tired at this point. citadel of kangs and ricks. gimme a break.
godspell @godspell Of course he is no one even consider that the spider was from another universe they thoughtt it was a spider that got hit with collidor that bites him. No one considered it a spider from another universe which explains the glitching. The audience assume that it was a side effect from being hit
godspell @godspell No one would assume miles was anomaly bc his body isn't glitching even the world that the spider originated from rejects miles. This is a world without a spider man. It's insanely smart to do this. When he was trying to go back home it traced the spider instead
godspell @godspell Also stop comparing to rick and morty. They never did it first lol
godspell @godspell Man it's always fun to discuss with someone. I had people always tell me on here. Why do I care? Why do you keep talking about it when I obviously don't care. It's so sad it's like you're talking by yourself
Lamby @momoichi not comparing anything, im showing a pattern. how many marvels movies now involve dimensions? i even made fun of the newest antman but stating how its literally just twop rick and morty episodes, miniverse and citadel of ricks. did they actually explicitly mention miguel being more spider? ill admit, i had a hard time paying attention to certain scenes because of how visually busy they were, its like having to see and hear were being split, and i think the spiderleague was one of those scenes. why wasnt miles glitching before? why is he now?
Lamby @momoichi same kek, also nice hearing someone elses perspective being fleshed out. yeah it shows how much you enjoy something. if you cant have a full bodied discussion over media, i dont think you really enjoy that media. when wer done with the spiderverse discourse, i have another contriversial opinion; while, a 9/10 movie, the meaning behind the joker was horribly flawed, and also that the batman heavily ripped it off.
godspell @godspell I think it's fine. Bc spiderman the most well crafted character with different creations in other worlds. It's beautiful that we get to have those addressed bc they were worked on so well. I think multiverse was the best out of all of them. I have no idea why they can get spiderman done correctly and nothing else. Marvel has continually disappointed me with their writing as of late. Yeah I blocked that person her account got removed
Lamby @momoichi ill tell you why; spiderman is one of the few superheroes that are done well. perfect wish fulfillment. nerd gets powers and the girl. personally i think one of the best and most underused characters is harry osborn. best friend that hates your other persona is such a great idea. hence why spidergwen NEEDS TO HAVE HER OWN MOVIE HER STORY IS SO MUCH BETTER THE BEST TAKE ON PETER PARKERS STORY
godspell @godspell I think you can argue for any spiderman that because of their own spin to the character. Have you seen Fiona and cake show yet? It's the sequel to adventure time
Lamby @momoichi fuck no, spidergwen is unique. plus its nice seeing a female spiderman that (was) in my age range. only other spiderwomen we saw were grown ass women, but a girl close to 20 getting her shit together. and i hate how they made her an asshole in the movie. why. that isnt spidergwen, shes quippy and nice. i know all spidermen are like that, so how do they set her apart? make her mean? gimme a break. thats not who she is. shes a little more accurate in the newest the movie? but she still those meaner, harder qualities that og spidergwen just didnt have. she never would have abandoned her father. and why did her dad pull a gun on her?! thats his fuckin daughter! in the comics he lets her go, cause of course he would. that scene made no sense.
godspell @godspell You didn't answer my question on fionna and cake xD
Lamby @momoichi oh yeah. nope. saw bits and pieces like stills from eps and watched the intro when it was released. the intro looked too much like bee and puppycat. i know the main audience is ment to be girls, so i hope they do that properly, or i will be irate.
godspell @godspell I don't think it's oriented for girls. It's a multiverse story using Simon. He's traversing the multiverse for some reason and seeks Fionan and cake bc when he wore the crown. And made his fan fiction. He was seeing the different dimensions and saw them
Lamby @momoichi i mean, the protagonist is a girl and theres romance, so i dont see why it wouldnt be directed toward girls. it should be directed toward girls, we deserve more media that targets us
godspell @godspell I suppose. But we see different versions of Finn. Different versions of ice king. Like the clips I see. I'm so sad for Simon. He has nothing. He has no magic you can't even call human. He feels like a relic of the past that should have disappeared
godspell @godspell He doesn't feel he belongs in the land of ood
Lamby @momoichi aye yo sshhh i havent seen it yet
godspell @godspell Yeah. Fionna and cake will make me happy. I'm rewatching adventure time
Lamby @momoichi bro adventure time was the BEST cartoon of all time. so weirdly deep and meta. i think we can thank adam muto for elevating it to that level, as i believe he becomes the show runner around the time we meet simon, which is when the show becomes canonized
Lamby @momoichi fern was my fave character. him and magic woman (not betty, magic woman) but mostly fern. the idea of being torn between a heart of evil and a soul of valor is so interesting. i cried at his death
godspell @godspell I appreciate adventure time so much showing me the roots on how adult Finn becomes who he is. Also man I wish we were roomies. Home hasn't been great rn
godspell @godspell You see different versions of fern
Lamby @momoichi yeah having a protag that ages is so rare
Lamby @momoichi my fave fern is his treehouse form. probz him at his happiest
godspell @godspell Yeah you'll see all the different adult versions of Finn. And what he could be and what could have been
Lamby @momoichi oh, idc really. i want it to focus on fiona.
Lamby @momoichi wait wait wait wait, can we talk about the joker? and how its messaging is horrible?? and how matt reeves totally leached arthurs charatcer to inspire edwards?
godspell @godspell Sure go ahead I'm at work. So shoot away
Lamby @momoichi firstly; what did you think about the joker?
godspell @godspell It was a great movie. Unfortunately a lot of others don't think so
godspell @godspell It even gave me anxiety
Lamby @momoichi really? people pan it?
godspell @godspell At least when I watched it
godspell @godspell I just heard complaints when I got out
Lamby @momoichi thats crazy. its a 9/10 movie. i wish i didnt already know the twist with his gf. but i think the issue with the movie is it fumbles the message massively. the movie only ever justifies his violence. he never hurt a single person that didnt treat him badly, but in real life people like arthur only ever hurt random people.
godspell @godspell I hope the sequel addresses what was real
Lamby @momoichi lol did you read the rest of what i said
godspell @godspell Yeah I know. I honestly have no qualms with what you said. Lol I mean the movie is flawed. But it's done purposely
Lamby @momoichi purposefully? how?
godspell @godspell Well the story structure is a shambles like his mind. The way it tells it's story can be confusing to some. One would think everything just actually happen he really killed those people. But did he? Is he actually related to the Waynes? Was he actually able to induce this riot killing the Waynes
Lamby @momoichi its not confusing at all. its cut and dry. hes only delusional with his gf, unless you think theres inconsistencies in other aspects of his life?
godspell @godspell I easily think so. That's what I want the sequel to address. How far are these delusions because of when he wasn't able to get his meds
godspell @godspell You feel like having a spooky movie day?
Lamby @momoichi i made many spooky movies planned. i watched circle, triangle, and just need to watch cube to finish the trifecta
Lamby @momoichi i mean the next movie sint about him, so idk how this could be explored properly
godspell @godspell Well I believe Harley Quinn the protagonist being his therapist would entitle her for dialogue on why he did x amount of things. I haven't started I've been waiting to watch werewolf movies
godspell @godspell I finally read the latest chapter of jujutsu kaisen. Again another banger. Internet Twitter on fire again
Lamby @momoichi yeah iv seen reaction memes threatening the mangakas life lol must have been heavy
Lamby @momoichi idk, the movie will be her movie, and i think arthur will just be a piece for her story. like he'll always be in arkham while she lives irl
godspell @godspell Yeah. Again they're dumb for threatening the mangakas life. If they haven't realized the hints he put in place
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yo, everyone seems to love the one piece remake, you were right! did you like it too??
godspell @godspell I haven't watched it. Disenchantment just ended today. So I'm rewatching the series
godspell @godspell I'm also not surprise. The effort made was evident even the snails were robots. The dialogue didn't betray the characters
godspell @godspell I do feel sad for the people who only say it's ok. Meaning they don't understand the first arc is the toughest to read or watch
godspell @godspell So I have to make sure to keep updating you on new things. One Steven universe funko pop nfts. People be made it's been 8 year or so and it's nfts lol. But it's star sapphire and ruby wedding like yay. Also blue diamond the grail
godspell @godspell Also the fionna and cake TV show is out on HBO max. Looks like it's multiverse related bc it has nothing to do with ice king fan fiction. It's a regular human and cat who end up meeting Simon who is traversing the multiverse
godspell @godspell So nvm. It is the continuation of adventure time. That's pretty exciting
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvv_r1MB8lc
godspell @godspell I don't think the riddler the best villain. But he's easily in the top 5 or 3 for me
Lamby @momoichi watch the viiiiiddddddd
godspell @godspell I've seen the video. You know I listen to a lot of batman related videos for car rides or cartoon retrospective
godspell @godspell He makes it seem like there's no thoughts for any other villains
Lamby @momoichi hes referring to the comic ya dingus. its soooooo fucking clever!
godspell @godspell Yeahhhh. I still think scarecrow or two face are my top 2 sadly. Riddler sometimes in first place sometimes depending if I've been reading riddler comics only for a few months
Lamby @momoichi i thought you were obsesssed with clayface? did you finish the vid?
godspell @godspell I've listen to it before in my car when I was looking for riddler videos. Clayface is in my top 10. The issue with clayface is the writers forget how to write him as a thief or a troubled monster
godspell @godspell They usually forget the actor and a thief were two separate clayface. Or fuse the backstories together
godspell @godspell Bro this zombie Korean game show is so much fun to watch hahaha
Lamby @momoichi did you finish the vid? oh yeah? oh shit i never watched train to bosan, gotta watch it this year
godspell @godspell You told me you did. You gotta watch we're all dead the Korean zombie show. So in this game show. I'm on the last ep so this guy pushed this girl on crutches into the zombies got bit. But they kept her bc she's invisible to zombies. But she's gonna turn so when the players stay in the ferris wheel waiting for the boat to arrive. She had full control of the device. So she's now locked in with him to bite him when she turns
godspell @godspell Ok this is bs. The other survivors chose not to change the machine to save him. They let her have him lol like fuck bro he was my favorite he kept laughing out of nerves too.
godspell @godspell Ok nevermind I'm fine with his ending. He ends off as zombie king dancing the night away with a piano that you blow into.
Lamby @momoichi k but like you watch that vid yet
godspell @godspell I have watched the video
godspell @godspell The issue with the riddler is that they destroy the riddler reputation. He had a huge boom after the 66 batman show. However a writer decided after he had a long successful time. That he made the whole thing up in his mind and that he's a d rank villain. So writers have the tendency to write him as a loser. And now people thought he was a loser until Paul dano had the role.
godspell @godspell Also it keeps people from writing fun stories of the riddler in this format since they know the popularity of story wouldn't be there. Unlike the joker. Which is why joker in my top 5 instead of top 3
Lamby @momoichi i forget these days why the joker is so kool.
godspell @godspell There is a lot of comics that are seriously really good about the joker. But the oversaturation is very tiring
Lamby @momoichi what is his thing ment to be? just absurdism? arthurs jaded violence was the best interpretation. i think joker is peak when hes the 'im tired of crying, so ill start lauging' i hope thatll be the joker in the batman
godspell @godspell Idk their have been comics that explore the times where he hasn't laughed in weeks. There are a ton of joker comics though that are brilliant. I'm just too tired to think about it
Lamby @momoichi i forget, did you end up reading tokyo ghoul? furuta is the best archetype for the joker. taking control of the uncontrollable and forcing a smile and making everything a punchline because if you dared take anything serious, youd lose that control over it. humor is one of the best (unhealthy) coping mechanisms because it takes control away from something, you now paint it with your own brush, a humorous one. again, unhealthy but i think that would be peak joker, and i think thats the joker we got from arthur to some extent
godspell @godspell I did but I need to reread it. But the joker represents the darkness of humanity from one bad day. And that is what he does in gotham whenever he gets out.
godspell @godspell I feel like I should recommend 3 comics from each villain to you.
Lamby @momoichi i mean, all of the gotham villains are the darkest. idk what makes joker especially evil
Lamby @momoichi eeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh not really a comic reader.
godspell @godspell Well they aren't. Two face wants to prove good and evil are part of the same coin from his belief in duality. Riddler wants to prove he's the smartest. Mr freeze will do anything to save his wife. Penguin wants to have daring capers and make off with cash. The joker does it because he can and will
Lamby @momoichi nah riddler wants friends. mr freeze is special he isnt a villain. but they all do equal amounts of evil. you could say joker does it because he wants to stick his middle finger in the air and its just as much a motive as riddler, no true chaos. even chaos for chaos sake is still a motive
godspell @godspell I would like to think riddler is just as bad as joker. He has no tragic backstory. He has nothing. When he admitted his orgin story to a doctor they were flabbergasted. There was nothing really in his backstory that would inspire him to do what he does
godspell @godspell Btw when we hanging out so I can just annoy you for hrs
Lamby @momoichi you like joker without a sad backstory? i would have agreed, but man edward nashton and arthur are such good characters. no notes no complaints. perfect villains
Lamby @momoichi id break a joint on your hand every time you bothered me
godspell @godspell I know you would. But I would still knock on your door to show you a panel of a Manga
Lamby @momoichi depends the manga...
godspell @godspell Wellll knowing me it'll be stuff you havent read
Lamby @momoichi sure, but would it be any good? showing me a bad manga makes i break your elbow
godspell @godspell You can try. I'm currently reading marriagetoxin. An assassin specialize with poisons has to find a women to marry to continue the clan or their grandma will force his sister to break up with her gf and have kids. He saves a con artist of relationship to help him find a wife
Lamby @momoichi sounds like if spy x family and hells paradise had a child
godspell @godspell Yeah I have my doubts whether of he'll fall for the con artist for some reasons I don't want to spoil. But he's a really nice person who only kills criminals for his jobs. He even injects himself with his poisons to stimulate his strength
godspell @godspell Have you seen the clips for dead mount death play. I'm so happy to see it be receive so well
Lamby @momoichi is that the surgeon guy? someone recommended me that (might have been you?) when i said i loved scum of good and evil
godspell @godspell Hmm I don't think so. Diner Manga might be more your speed though. A diner that serves serial killers or killers for hires
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have you played arkham and if yes why (in your own words) were the riddler parts the best?
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godspell @godspell Because the voice actor and dialogue were perfect for him. The obsessive compulsion to be more intelligent than anyone was his driving force into fighting batman. His riddles really drove home how annoying he is in the comics or anywhere for the never ending riddles
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theres a few photoshops of the danoman looking like the og riddler. i think this what fandom thought theyd dress him as initially. oh how wrong they were
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godspell @godspell I think he's fine the way he was in the movie. But now everyone knows who he is. He has no reason to hide anymore
godspell @godspell I'm getting comic books to sell tomorrow. The packages says 20 pounds so I'm very nervous. I hope everything was perfect like I hope
Lamby @momoichi he was perfection. i mean, if he doesnt wanna get recaptured yeah he has to hide >W> more so than before. but hey, thats what he always wanted. to be seen. im happy for him. i hope he gets to fuck over the newest da
godspell @godspell I don't think he will. He did kill the new DA so that explains why we get Harvey dent. Plus he's hanging with the joker. Teaching him to be flashy
Lamby @momoichi well remember, the joker isnt the joker yet. but he will be soon. i think riddler would just make joker his new friend (friendship with batman ended) and follow him around like a puppy for the most part. i wonder how their friendship will end? in another betrayal? god i hope so
godspell @godspell Easily a betrayal. He'll probably convince him the people they'll be killing are evil rotting the soul in gotham. Vs joker actually polluting gotham with more madness
godspell @godspell Oh yeah in other news I really wanna finally finish bojack Horseman. And be depressed for the rest of the year
Lamby @momoichi to be honest i dont think riddler cares about 'killing evil people' keep in mind he flooded downtown gotham, he knew average joes would die and he didnt care. he hates all of gotham, the people included
Lamby @momoichi oh yeah? whatcha think? better yet, how ya feelin?
godspell @godspell I really wanna rewatch it. So I might start tomorrow. We'll see. I know I want to rank all the episodes. I know the first 3 ep are easily in my bottom tier
Lamby @momoichi riiiiiiiiiiight!?!?! iv rewatched it like, 7, 8 times. just cozy and also the sadness but like, controlled sadness because you know itll happen
godspell @godspell I don't know it hurts a lot to be honest. Like when bojack sabatoges Todd dream for a rock opera. It's a better version of rick sabatoging morty Netflix dream
Lamby @momoichi my fave ep was the alzheimers one. seeing his mom throughout her history, how she wasnt always like this, hearing 'i will always, think of you,' knowing shes losing her memory. the lobotomy and the 'why, if i had half a mind,' seeing her and his father give these little dreams of 'ill be a famous writer, and we'll be happy' only to know it so wasnt true. all of the ifs. fuck, one of the best episodes of tv history
godspell @godspell I definitely don't even remember that I just remember her for what she did to hollyhock. But did you know they have a complete script for bojack if Netflix ask them to do another season
Lamby @momoichi DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD:
Lamby @momoichi oh yeah i knew it was canceled earlier than they wanted, but they sticked the landing
godspell @godspell They really did. But they can easily be back
Lamby @momoichi i mean, what else can they do? id rather the writers work on new stuff, like tuca bertie
godspell @godspell Idk it's the same thing I can about Futurama. Im so happy they're back. Fry Billy west is legit 71 be can any day now
Lamby @momoichi wwhhaaaattttttttt your hyped for the new futurama? why? didnt they lose benders voice actor? and what did you think of the last season (minus the final episode)?
godspell @godspell I think the 10th season had a whole array from d tiers to S tier episodes
Lamby @momoichi really? what episodes to you were s tier? personally the only one i remember being s tier was the final one
godspell @godspell Game of tones. Stench of stenchibility. I think those are super close. Maybe A tier.
Lamby @momoichi i do nooot remember thes eps xD quick synopsis's?
godspell @godspell Game of tones. Is where this sonic message is hitting the world and the tone jogs something in fry memory. That he knows this tune. So they professor makes fry enter his memories to find the source. He ignores it bc he wants to have final words with his mom. But his friends and Nibbler force him to find it. Keeping him away
Lamby @momoichi whoa that sounds so good wtf maybe i need to revisit the final season
godspell @godspell Long story short again. Finds the source and Nibbler pays him this debt. By letting him in a dream. But it's his mom dream. His mom thinks it's a dream bc she's dreamt of fry since he disappear. And instead of a speech. Fry hugs her. It makes me cry so much
Lamby @momoichi futurama is so fucking good, rick and morty can eat ass, futurama is the REAL cartoon for nerds. they had real harvard physicists on their writing staff for fuck sake. real smart/nerdy jokes, not just making fun of scifi and acting like your doing it smartly.
Lamby @momoichi the deal with the devil episode was the best. the ending where fry relearns the holophone was, ugh. feelings. nothing more than feelings
godspell @godspell That's easily S tier. But sting is easily the best Futurama episode. Stench one about zoidberg finally getting a happy ending before the last episode. He finds a girlfriend who can't smell his terrible stench. But she always wanted to smell flowers. So in a selfless act he gives her the nose transplant to smell. Instead of leaving him. She loves his smell and hates flowers. In my opinion this is a fantastic episode summing all the parts of zoidberg everyone forgets. He is the nicest member
Lamby @momoichi wwhhhaaattt the og eps arent your fave? i think the eps pre the first cancelation were futurama at its peak
godspell @godspell I think sting was easily the best. Where a bee stings Leela through fry. Killing fry in the process. But in the end turns out Leela was in a Coma the entire episode until the end
Lamby @momoichi oohh that one! i hear people really like that, but it was frustrating for me. i know the reveal at the end and how sweet fry was waitinhg was great, but the ep was an odyssey. emotionally taxing, you know?
godspell @godspell I think it's quite something they could animate it like a fever dream. The more you rewatch the episode the more you see the signs it was a Coma. All the dream fry presents are in the hospital room with Leela meaning fry would bring her gifts. It illustrates the love fry has for Leela and her to him.
Lamby @momoichi fever dream really is the best way to describe it.
godspell @godspell I think it was one of the only times they could animate the series like that. And im glad it paid off
godspell @godspell Fuck the creator of I'm Sakamoto passed away from cancer.
godspell @godspell Hey there
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read anymore chapters yet!?
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godspell @godspell No I've been exhausted from work and my knee was killing me
godspell @godspell I swear I'll read tonight
Lamby @momoichi D:<
godspell @godspell Yeah I gotta schedule a chiropractor tomorrow. My knee hasn't gotten better
Lamby @momoichi you gotta rest it to let it get better. use ice?
godspell @godspell I have. I'm going to a chiropractor still hurts. It clicks when I move so it has to be an imbalance muscle or runner knee
godspell @godspell I've finished two more chapters. Makes sense why he targeted the commissioner probably hid the evidence
Lamby @momoichi i.... i really recommend you do not go to a chiropractor, its a pseudoscience that works purely on placibo. i'm sure you already have the appointment booked and nothing i can say will change it, but i cant in good conscious say nothing
Lamby @momoichi BASED do you think his really name is edward nashton? you know how in the main canon his name is nygma? his name could still be nygma cause the letter it was just e.n!
godspell @godspell Idk my mom kept urging me to go. Id rather have my knee adjusted at least. To put it properl. His name he probably changes it to Edward nigma when he finds his parents
godspell @godspell Or wants to cut ties
Lamby @momoichi i dont think itll change because the website he uses is nygma, so i think thats the official connection, but his last name simply being n (or is that his mothers signature? we nary know.) so what do you think so far?
godspell @godspell I think they flipped a dictionary for his last time. Nashton probably his real name. He probably uses enigma as an alias last time. Bc enigma can be used for riddler purposes
Lamby @momoichi i dont think nashton could be his first name, just like a probability issue, cause how many n last names are there? chance nashton was THE one is near impossible. so what do you think about it so far??
Lamby @momoichi and he never used enigma as an alias, nor will he probz. hes riddler and i think the website being nygma was just an homage
godspell @godspell 13 15 8. That's a riddler from batman forever. MRE. Double meaning for enigma like Edward nigma
Lamby @momoichi wait. wait wait wait wait wait. back it up. explain?
godspell @godspell Edward nygma using that riddle on batman when he first appeared with two face in the forever to taunt batman who he is. Since they met only once.
godspell @godspell 13 15 8 those correspond to the alphabet but the riddler always cheats bc the riddles have double meanings. MRE could mean enigma
godspell @godspell Idk I feel like could be an alias like joker uses John doe
godspell @godspell Also I watched good omens season 2. Ugh my heart
Lamby @momoichi pretty basic form of cipher. with your riddler incite, any idea what he was spelling with those blocks? surely they werent just jibberish and ment something? some easter egg?
Lamby @momoichi never seen good omens but the fanart is cute
godspell @godspell I'd have to look at it more. But he really does make everything as one big riddle or puzzle. I feel like coding like making a riddler
godspell @godspell Riddle
godspell @godspell Also yes good omens is such fun. I can't believe season 2 came back after 5 years
Lamby @momoichi yeah, coding is largely black and white works or doesnt work and the problems are right there, a lot like math. theres right and wrong, black and white. which seems the opposite of riddles in my opinion because riddles probz have more than one answer if your clever enough, so not as black and white, but still that puzzle aspect
Lamby @momoichi so what do you think of the comic so far????
godspell @godspell Well coding the same way. Just because you have it set up the computer could take it both ways. Like for example my brother was updating new anti virus software and the old software was trying to kill the new one. It's fine. I don't think it'll be in my top 10 but it's something to recommend to people who really like the batman and Paul dano
Lamby @momoichi whaaaaaaaaaaat why not?! is edward nashton not 'literaly meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee rn!!"!?!??!
godspell @godspell I don't know. I really like him as riddler but the comic for me is still not as good as my favorite riddler stories
Lamby @momoichi hes not relatable D:? at all D:?
godspell @godspell It's like I'm really hoping this interpretation of penguin is really good. I have my favorite comics of penguin and I want this guy to be close to those comics. Idk I feel like I do relate. I do put up with the loneliness of my life not being able to accept myself and seeking affirmation or meeting people expectations of me
Lamby @momoichi hes been great so far. a total sleazed ball and clearly still disabled because hes called a gimp by falcone and it really pissed him off. i only care about his show because i wanna see that old money from not a wayne lens, but a cobblepot lens. how is his family so different from the waynes. what ties do they have as very old gotham families? stuff like that. same. hes like my soul comic book partner. i want him to explain things needlessly to me, and i can ask him questions on how things work and hed just instantly rattle off the answer. thats domestic bliss
godspell @godspell I love penguin. It's fine they do the henchman to crime boss. But I like the gentlemen thief he used to be before using more sophisticated methods like using the ice lounge as a front where everything that happens can't be traced back to him. Like I love when robin says why care about this c lister. But batman even says he's smarter than me don't underestimate him. Then why do you win. Bc he has weaknesses in his personality that allows batman to win
Lamby @momoichi he use to be a gentlemen thief? how did that work? kek a bar is probz a good front yeah, all that cash. penguin is a c lister? hes one of the wealthiest and oldest families.
godspell @godspell They rank him as that according from the Robins due to him being ridiculous. But no one understands that the penguin will strike you down for considering him ridiculous. He went on a daring caper for 3 heists to prove these criminals in a bar he's still top dog not joker
Lamby @momoichi oh i thought you ment his socialite statues. i like penguin because hes like, this slimey lil sleaze ball whos largely a slave to his vices. hes gross and classless, but conversely from old money and looks/dresses classily. i like contrasting stuff, clearly. green wouldnt be so green without red, you know?
godspell @godspell I think my favorite penguin story where penguin wins. He decides to stop doing crime and do crime the legal way. Even batman can't stop him from influencing the stock market to make himself rich. The penguin a genius. You also see how he dreams of himself. As a gentleman thief. But batman waits long enough that penguin gets bored. And strikes out to fight batman again in Wayne manor bc he wanted to buy it
godspell @godspell It also shows his childhood how he manipulates people with money and blackmails them. A character that appears in the story is his ex prom date he bought with money. But blackmails her to kiss him and pretend to be in love or he'll tell everyone he bought her. She is the same sadly and let's herself to be bought bc she wants to kill him
Lamby @momoichi stocks? arent a crime xD? insider trading might be? i mean, lawless crimes might be shit like card counting or engaging in predatory sweepstakes. predatory money lending is another one.
godspell @godspell He was using a device that would change the market bc he knows exactly the market operates enough where no one would notice. He got someone who bullied him to sponsor him in the stock market.
godspell @godspell This one and this short where penguin in love with a slave girl and buys her freedom is my favorite. Where she thanks him and doesn't want to leave him regardless of his deformity. But she finds out the darkness in him. He destroyed the life of a chef bc he thought he was laughing at him
Lamby @momoichi like a stock predicting machine? or actually changing the market? in what way? sounds illegal as well. like insider trading in the most literal way xD
Lamby @momoichi lol wtf. he buys a slave girl and she doesnt wanna leave him cause shes oh so super duper grateful? creepy
godspell @godspell Yes they talked a lot and end up falling in love. It's when he was a legit person running a casino. Batman would weekly check in on him beating up his guards to tell him to stay on the path. But the darkness in Oswald couldn't be contain. He has a scrap book of how he destroyed people lives who spite or bully him. He had the chef restaurant close to a vermin problem. He ends up losing his wife to divorce and kids from a custody battle. And he has a liquor store built in front of his apartment since he knows he was addicted to liquor. Then he kills himself. Girl finds out calling him a monster and he gives her back to the black market
Lamby @momoichi cringe. the 'he saved me so i owe him my love' trope and the virtuous prostitute trope. outdated. ill bet she was gorgeous of course. and never mind penguin routinely traffics women as apart of his business. nah im sure hes a heckin swell guy when you talk to him.
godspell @godspell It isn't his business. He went to a black market bc he wanted to see if there was anythinG penguin related and she look like him when he was at his lowest at school. The penguin has always been at his weakest when he falls for someone. In the 60s he gave up crime for a pen pal he had in prison. This is sorta like that. But done well to illustrate what would happen if he was given love he never had. Like on valentines day he was beaten up by girls and then unless pigeons he was rasing
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godspell @godspell She only saw the good in him. She thought he was an honest business man as he's shown himself to gotham. She didn't know who he was or what he was. It was an amazing story. Bc all the penguin wants is his love. And he'll never have it bc he is a monster
godspell @godspell Oh yeah this is also when riddler was a good btw. He was hanging out with penguin talking about how easy it is to be rich doing legit business. He was a private eye detective solving cases. He even worked with batman and the dialogue amazing. Bc he is a better detective than batman in some cases
Lamby @momoichi to be fair, i dont care much about the riddler as a character outside this specific iteration. all of batmans villains are amazing, though riddler is too over the top for my liking in most of his iterations. after nashton i love the riddler from the arkham games. that haughty asshole that taunts and forces you to play with him.
godspell @godspell I think there are mostly good iterations of him. Like there's a good chunk of comics for him. But I can never forgive when the writer in charge makes him look like a damn loser. He isn't a loser with a lame gimmick!
Lamby @momoichi i dont like the suave suit verison of him. i want condescending nerd. i want condescending nerd but now greasy and in a white beater.
godspell @godspell Idk he's always condescending. He always believes he's more intelligent than anyone. It's always cool to see him. His riddles are amazing but annoying but if it leaves everyone baffled and he successfully does his plan it's great
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godspell @godspell I read two chapters before a thunderstorm interrupted me
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godspell @godspell It's really good for what it's trying to achieve. I do believe this would have made the movie more difficult if they added this to the movie run time
Lamby @momoichi lol yeah this could never be in the movie, the movie was ultimately about batman. but paul dano wanted to better flesh out the edward nashton behind the riddler. how do you think he portrayed mental illness? dano seems like a normie but it got intrusive thoughts eerily accurate
godspell @godspell Nah dano character had all the mental illnesses that the riddler possess but he was slowly becoming him gradually. This comic just confirmed what I suspectef
Lamby @momoichi no i mean paul dano himself looks like a normie. like a normal guy, no extreme anxieties or issues. yet he captures edwards mental health issues pretty well i think. obvious edward is fucked in the head lol
godspell @godspell Yeah I'm very happy with him having his ocd and his attention seeking validation problems. He wants affirmation that he is better than anyone. The way he uses his puzzles and riddles to calm down is an unhealthy compulsion issue. He can not live without them to continue
Lamby @momoichi i dont think he has ocd, just looping thoughts and obsessive tendencies. hes not really attention seeking either, i think hes more like a normal shy person. he wants friends, but friends are hard to make, and especially so when everyone is a dick to you. and when you do try (with the woman on the train) you only ever get punished. i think this is where the matt reeves riddler thrives, hes so down to earth and understandable. relatable in this way.
godspell @godspell But that's what ocd is. Obsession and compulsions that he does over an over again. With his riddles and puzzle. His routine in his days the way he writes. He tries to ignore the compulsions but he can't. I don't think so. He wants everyone to see and accept him. He had no parents no affection for his achievements and brilliance. He thought Thomas Wayne would do so but he died and was lost in the system
godspell @godspell He wanted the boss man to see how brillant he is over the smooth talker that takes credit for his work
Lamby @momoichi doesnt ocd force you to follow strict regimens? like, you have to flick the lights on three times when you enter a room? or washing your hands til theyr white or red? or that the sky will fall if you dont walk up the last step ont he stairs twice? i think ocd is more of a way to control your environment as a way of controlling your life. i had some mild ocd when i was younger because of my anxiety. anxiety does give you racing, intrusive, and looping thoughts, but it has to be rreaalll bad to give you ocd. i think he just has bad anxiety and a bit of apophenia
Lamby @momoichi i dont think he nessecarily wants everyone to accept him, i think hed be satisfied with an 'atta boy' from any older man. and he was obsessed with batman because he was the perfect friend in his mind, someone he could project himself onto.
Lamby @momoichi thats actually a small criticism i have. hes not like how he is in the movie. we dont see him really want to be seen by everyone or anyone, for people to see how smart he is and that hes a savior and hero, he just wanted revenge and didnt care who knew it was him. though maybe im over stepping in this. he did give batman the 'no one cares whats behind the mask' speech, so maybe he didnt care about the recognition
godspell @godspell He believed batman was like him methodical and cold to his approach that he would understand. The rage he has to the scum of the city is like his. But idk ocd for the riddler has always been that uncontrollably urge to leave a riddle or always has to think of way. He moved from numbers to riddles I'm sure if I keep ridding it
Lamby @momoichi but regardless, in the book edward has already tried to kill someone at this point in his life, but his comic counterpart seems far more docile
godspell @godspell Reading it
Lamby @momoichi yeah but we dont see that form of ocd. just the racing, looping thoughts. from his internal dialogue, we can see that he knows he struggled with obsessive thoughts, which i think implies he likely has some form of apophenia. which also explains the talent in puzzles and why he sees a lot of things this way. but he seems to be very down to earth with his anxiety over all though, and i appreciate it. its the best part about him. hes one of us
Lamby @momoichi yes please and please enjoy and also keep talking with me about it ;w;
godspell @godspell Idk I think he's perfect as riddler and I want to keep that mindset that he's ocd over his looping thoughts and riddles. And how strong his obsession that starts from being told he made a mistake
Lamby @momoichi yeah the ego is very subtle, but still there! i love it! ugh i want him to bend over my shoulder and correct things im doing, just info sperg into my ear in a deadpan autistic voice. the dream.
godspell @godspell It's very unfortunate though. If Bruce Wayne did the Bruce Wayne persona on bettering the city on how he usually does he would have noticed Riddler and gave him a better position and work location. Bc he's so brillant with numbers I wouldn't be suprise if he could turn a business or city around
Lamby @momoichi yeah bruce really dropped the ball by not immediately getting into the family business when he graduated. he could have seen the corruption and stopped it and reimbursed the fund. edward would have gotten his money and would have lived a different life. though how different? i think its another thing, edward kinda seemed lost at that point. money helps, a good education would help, but theres no fixing those scars. it was already too late. plus youll learn a little fact about his mom that makes the end of his story all that sadder
godspell @godspell If he had a better work environment which is a must he might get the affirmation he needs to ignore his compulsion. Bc Bruce wouldn't ignore Ed findings on how they're using the renewal project as a laundering project
Lamby @momoichi i actually disagree kinda. i thought it was silly he (seemingly) wanted zach's position as team leader. because zach is right. hes not social. why would he want a position where you have to interact with others? i think his work suits him best, no? i mean, does he even want to socialize with anyone there? he seems like the youngest around as well. and being good with numbers isnt to say your good managing people. but i guess it was more a 'i would have atleast liked to be asked,' like a principle thing.
Lamby @momoichi do you think if people gave him positive attention, hed lean less into his compulsions?
godspell @godspell I believe so. If he knows he's number one he could do better. Because imagine him exposing laundering or finding dirty money in the city. And sending them to jail. Especially the ones who ruin his childhood
Lamby @momoichi yeah, but those kind of things are bandaids. what if mr.stone wasn't corrupt? what if he pat him on the back and told him he did a great job? you know what would happen? he'd be happy. and then hed get on the train. and then hes back in his apartment. alone. with still only his puzzles as friends. i think his issues are far deeper then a pat on the back
godspell @godspell Idk wouldn't he find any satisfaction and closure from him destroying and rebuilding renewal to give orphans the chance he didn't get
godspell @godspell Also can I talk about how I need a tmnt Ronin movie. Like very badly
Lamby @momoichi thats the thing, i dont think he ever gave a damn about anyone but himself. in the book he burned down the wayne estate, burned down the orphanage. where did the orphans go? was it truly better than the orphanage? and did he not consider the orphans he would be making by flooding the city? the children that would die? the poor destitute like himself that would die? no, he never cared. he just thought of himself and his own satisfaction
Lamby @momoichi NO soon but just a few more sentences about year one. we always talk about your stuff i wanna talk about mine >:O
godspell @godspell He took it's as more as Noah's flood if you think about it. Cleanse the unclean with the scum of gotham 1 percent
godspell @godspell Hey you enjoy the shit I talk about xD
Lamby @momoichi yeah i loved the biblical references. i can see why hed love that hardcore old testament stuff
Lamby @momoichi i dont though xD i dont care about comics or marvel or superheroes. you should know that, i always poopoo them lol. i talk about them because you want to talk about them
godspell @godspell Yes you do xD you love the discussion and arguments it's brain tingling. And we can talk more about your stuff. Just hit me up with whatever you want xD and what you talk about. We talk about so much irl to cartoons to Manga and anime xD
Lamby @momoichi i mean i argue because its all i can add. i cant really engage positively with media im not a fan of. i dont totally not mind talking about cape stuff with you, your my friend and im glad your happy, but id like to talk about stuff i like too
godspell @godspell That's fine just hit me with a conversation first with what you want. I know I'll read two more chapters tonight
godspell @godspell But you do like cape stuff. You just haven't been exposed to the right stuff of comics
Lamby @momoichi i mean i like the batman and the other guardians of the galaxy, and i just rewatched hellboy and fuck was it cringe but in a good way. ron pearlman is the fucking man. but you usually wanna talk about marvel stuff and funkos and other stuff i either actively hate or just am disinterested in. which is fine, again your my friend and im happy your happy and you dont get angry when i do shit on these things which i appreciate, just i only talk about them for you.
Lamby @momoichi yeah tell me when you read them! im curious how you find he fits or doesnt fit the movie riddler as well!!
godspell @godspell There's so many batman comics I could recommend for riddler it's great DX there's one where hes hired by a security firm to better their security but the place ends up getting rob that same day and he's kidnapped. And batman has a way to communicate with him. But the ocd riddle fool can only send him the messages in riddles
godspell @godspell Ay you actually enjoy when I share my funko finds they're enjoyable. But I know you hate them. I just don't have anyone to share my achievements with
Lamby @momoichi no no no no no no i LOVE this riddler because hes so down to earth! because hes like us! i LOVED venture bros for the same reason, i just LOVE, i become OBSESSED, when people ground and take a real approach to capeshit. adding bureaucracy to things like the guild of calamitous intent was so funny! arching without a permit! thats hilarious! i love it it makes my brain tingle in all the RIGHT ways! and how creative it was to make edward n(ashton) into a terminally online redditor! UGH i cant wait to see how he handles joker and clayface!
Lamby @momoichi no i get that, whats why i dont complain (usually)! im glad your happy! i just NEED to talk about the riddler comics and the batman or my manifesto WILL make it onto the news ;w;
godspell @godspell Man I'm very scared of his joker tbh. It can be a miss for all I know. We honestly could have made the batman trilogy without joker and I'd have been happy
Lamby @momoichi i mean, who can top arthur from the joker? i hope he tries to take that approach but doesnt lean toooo into the nihilism. joker is an absurdist if anything after all. did you see that apparently at present in the movie hes not known as 'the joker' yet?
godspell @godspell Yeah I figure as much. He feels like a serial killer that gets knocked into the vat of acid. And was realistic on the boils and how destroyed his skin is. How his nails are destroyed from scratching the vat trying to climb out
godspell @godspell Help me decide I want to buy only one nft. Demogorgon or Owl bear but I can't decide
godspell @godspell You wanna watch venture bros movie together when you catch up
Lamby @momoichi oh fuck i forgot im ment to be binging venture bros. fuck theres just so much to watch. you ever watch live streamers?
Lamby @momoichi i like the idea that batman accidently makes all these villains. like he is the reason the joker has those scars, and his insults is what drove the riddler past the brink of salvation
Lamby @momoichi uuuggghhh owl bear, not a fan of stranger things
godspell @godspell Don't worry it's dnd related. Like demogorgon this hair beast with two heads. They just both look cool. Live streamers in general or is that what they're called? Yeah but you can basically say the opposite that the villains created batman.
godspell @godspell In batman the animated series the villains kidnap batman and a lawyer. The lawyer believes batman created these villains and if he didn't exist the villains would never be here. But as she's questioning the villains listening to their back stories. She realizes no matter if batman was in being or not. These villains would have became who they are today regardless. That they're the symptoms of gotham and they created the batman
Lamby @momoichi streamers yet, sorry im talkin like a boomer. its a chicken or the egg thing i think. does batman bring out the villains, or are the villains brought out by him? from what wev seen, riddler never would have done what he did if batman wasnt around, so seems the latter.
godspell @godspell In batman the animated series the villains kidnap batman and a lawyer. The lawyer believes batman created these villains and if he didn't exist the villains would never be here. But as she's questioning the villains listening to their back stories. She realizes no matter if batman was in being or not. These villains would have became who they are today regardless. That they're the symptoms of gotham and they created the batman
godspell @godspell Also I've never really watch any streamers tbh. Just don't have the time. But I like the idea watching what they're up to and what the places look like on stream
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WHEN YOU GON READ THE FUCKIN COMIC EVERY DAY YOU DONT READ IT IS A DAY CLOSER I GET TO YOUR HOUSE
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godspell @godspell I wish you could be at my house. We can have a sleepover. Read Manga together or any shit we can do
godspell @godspell I should just buy it. My brothers got me an awesome gift from my birthday. I also bought venom first comic
Lamby @momoichi if you dont read that fuckin comic soon you will wish otherwise *cracks knuckles*
Lamby @momoichi hell yeah, but i can give you the link now. idk when the physical copy comes out, but im copin' it asap when it does
godspell @godspell Ok send me a link. Hmm you might not wish yourself. I'm not trap here with you. You're trap here with me with my bear hug when I see you
Lamby @momoichi dude you open your arms up for a hug and you leave your entire core vulnerable! bam bam bam your down!
Lamby @momoichi https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Riddler-Year-One/Issue-1?id=207263
Lamby @momoichi please please please please please please enjoy it and talk to me about it im desperate
godspell @godspell Yeah but you lose the only person you can talk to on Manga xD
Lamby @momoichi never said id kill you. you have many bones in your body, a few missing wont kill you >W>
godspell @godspell You never know. What if the broken bone pierces my lungs
Lamby @momoichi i am not so sloppy. when you plan on readin the comic?
godspell @godspell Probably after work tonight
Lamby @momoichi get back to me after issue one pleeaassse man my emotions are emaciated by the lack of conversation im having regarding this comic
godspell @godspell Yeah I don't mind doing so. Do you think clay face will be a giant clay monster
Lamby @momoichi oh eyah i actually went on the thebatman reddit to explore the clayface idea. the best post i saw and what i hoooope it will be will be he has masks he puts on and blends into the crowd after every crime. no way theyll go full ham with a monster, reeves himself said hes grounding this universe and the fuck for him is making these villains realistic. no way hes gonna be a monster or use some kinda cream. 10/10 it has to be masks (plus imagine if they realize clayface is clayface because they go into his room and skinned faces are all over the walls, just to realize theyr realistic masks, and thats how they realize its him.)
godspell @godspell That's OG clay face. The clay face from the 40s was an actor who was angry his movie was being remade. He was a one shot actor with one notable movie. He would disguise his face like clay and murder the actors
Lamby @momoichi i know, but yeah i dont think he'll be a monster. any idea how theyll ground him to be more realistic?
godspell @godspell Hmm I think he can still be a giant clay monster. Bc I want this to be batman animated series style somehow. But theres the clay face 3 I would rather them use. Bc it's a deform character that uses clayface dna to finally look normal. But he starts melting. So he tries to find a cure but when he feeling the melting happening he has to transfer it to someone else to melt in his place
Lamby @momoichi how do you think reeves could swing a realistic monster clayface? i mean riddler is chronically online incel domestic terrorist, thats how real hes making things
godspell @godspell Well honestly I'm not even sure. But I'm sure hell do better than nolan. Bc nolan wanted his set of movies super realistic. He even wanted scarecrow without his mask which is stupid
godspell @godspell Oh speaking of stupid people. Man I hate dan Harmon. Like he sucks man. I listen to his interview why marvel movie sucks or they're terrible. I'm like dumbass. Your own writing team writes for marvel like what are you saying
Lamby @momoichi well, as cillian himself says in the movie 'covering my face probably wouldn't bother a man like you, but the ladies, they hate it.' cant hire cillian murphy and cover him up for most of the movie. he is the best scarecrow, just needs lifts in his shoes. like, big lifts. like, a lot. maybe three stacked on top of eachother.
godspell @godspell Nah I think his scarecrow was decent it wasn't perfect. I just hate seeing the scarecrow being a henchman of sorts you know? He's capable to have the city in his clutches. And he's truly evil. He would hold the city ransom and even if he doesn't get the money. He won't be perturbed at all. Bc he wants to see what his gas will do to people
Lamby @momoichi i mean, harmon is a terrible person for sexually harassing and then normally harassing a woman and thinking he an apologize and alls forgiven. hes probz a talented writer, just a shitty person. yeah wasnt he famous for shitting on marvel movies? im not inclined to disagree with him xD but i get it sucks hearing something you like being shit on, specially by a shitty human being like him. you saw how he infantalized himself in the last season with the return of that narrative train guy? 'boohoo im a writer who makes millions but im gonna pretend im one of the writers that does live paycheck to paycheck.' insufferable.
Lamby @momoichi true, gabaghul ruined that movie. thats what i mean when i say things get too extreme. scarecrow wanting to jerk his dick to the scared masses is one thing, but an organization trying to use his evil plan to snuff out the denizens of gotham because theyr akthually totes the moral ones is... totally coherent yeah mhm.
godspell @godspell I think that one was better than the first time we saw the train guy tbh. But I'm mean he's shitting on people who are on his writing team. Bc a majority of rick and morty writers write for marvel. But man I really did like the last season of rick and morty. It always feels like uneducated people are telling me the new season was garbage or barely watchable
Lamby @momoichi *shrug* i just remember him using that episode to shoehorn himself in so he can larp as a starving artist despite making hundreds of thousands. i dont even remember a chunk of the l;ast season, id have to be reminded what happened (which is saying it was boring) im not sure what qualifies someone as 'educated' but i will 100% shit on rick and morty >W>
godspell @godspell Night family was really good for rick and morty for example. Showing the different style or genre that can happen for the franchise
Lamby @momoichi that was good, yeah. any other good eps though?
godspell @godspell A Rickconvenient Mort. Where we see Planetina and morty relationship blosoom and end. That was has stick with me more than any of the episodes of rick and morty
godspell @godspell The episode where rick has to assemble millions of morty in the vr set
Lamby @momoichi what was impactful about planetina? you ever seen human resources? they actually did a very good start and stop single episode romance.
Lamby @momoichi i liked the idea, but the ending sucked because we get another 'rick is a silent good guy uwu' when it should have been rick erasing mortys rebellion to control him. you remember when harmon said theyd never tell you why rick was an alcoholic because it would undercut the cruelty of his actions? i fuckin do.
godspell @godspell I didn't take the ending as that. Rick did something nice. But he's still a horrible person. He couldnt answer the morties when they show he doesn't love all of morty. He cares about the better parts of him instead of him as a whole. The best of morty got left behind on what morty could be. Confident defiant.
godspell @godspell And it's gone. Its really revelant to the character development of morty.
Lamby @momoichi he did something out of character.
Lamby @momoichi what character development did we get from planetina that then reappears in the following episodes?
godspell @godspell I think Planetina was amazing. It reminds you of how first love and first heartache always is. It shows so much of morty raw character analysis. He was resilient and would do anything he can to make her happy even though they didn't have anything in common. Normally morty would run away from danger but he didn't. Love is crazy. Not only is morty at a focal point
godspell @godspell But Beth as well as a mom. She sees what's going on and knows where it was going. Because they had conflicting interests and goals that conflicts with their moral ground. But Beth not at fault when morty lashes out. At the end of the episode when they break up morty has to end it. Even though his heart says don't do it. And his mom is there to provide the support he needs.
godspell @godspell I honestly don't think she's ever had a real parenting moment where it's not the result of a botch experiment or after she made a mistake
Lamby @momoichi i like substance. it doesnt even need to add character development so long as it means something. something that i hate about rick and morty is that they have the ultimate story deus ex machina; parallel universes. you wanna give character development and retract it for creative leeway? say this is a different rick and morty. its that easy. i could have no complaints, its clever way of circumventing lazy writing. and yet and yet and yet and yet.
Lamby @momoichi vat of acid and unity were A+ romance stories
godspell @godspell Those two were good. But I still like Planetina more. Bc it's more of a morty episode than anything else something a majority of viewers can relate to
Lamby @momoichi what?! how is planetina better!! the ending of unity was a fucking gut punch! that is actually character development! that our angry cruel rick is also fucking sad and lonely!
godspell @godspell Hmm I think the ending for morty crying into his moms arms about how much he loved her. Really hurts a lot bc we've all done that to our own mom or friend
Lamby @momoichi dont remember that part.
Lamby @momoichi but i will say, rick trying to kill himself is sadder than morty crying to his mom xD
godspell @godspell Hmm idk the build up to it is very raw to me. And the voice acting sells it. Rick killing himself just feels normal. The episode reminds you how young morty actually is and how human he is vs rick who's a god
Lamby @momoichi i think the impact of the unity episode was no, we didnt know that about rick yet. that rick was angry, callous, rude, mean, hedonistic, but ultimately selfish. so to find out he was in enough pain to kill himself? that was new at the time. thats why it was such a gut punch
Lamby @momoichi oh, i think we got the birdperson telling us 'wubalubadubdub means i am in great pain' but that was the only indication and it was played for laughs later on. but im 99% sure that was the extent that we knew
godspell @godspell Idk I guess it has. When I rewatch it. It doesn't hit me at all. I can't relate to rick toxicity hurting everyone and then himself
Lamby @momoichi probz cause you had the knowledge, but im sure back in the day it was a surprise. i dont think you have to empathize with characters to feel for them, theres sympathy as well. like i havent done half the horrible shit bojack has but it still hurts to watch him self destruct
godspell @godspell I feel very self destructive and constantly depreciate myself over an over again. That sometimes I don't even notice I do it
Lamby @momoichi sure but you (i hope) havent fucked a teenager or influenced a girl to relapse and later die >W>
godspell @godspell No I haven't. Id be suprise if I have
godspell @godspell One of my workers crashed their car so I've been struggling at work today that I might leave late
Lamby @momoichi id be surprised. damn, least your not workin nights anymore
godspell @godspell I work every night. I also have it harder we hired people for the kitchen but they struggle super hard with English. So I always have to fix things or explain them
Lamby @momoichi your working day through night, or like afternoon into the night?
godspell @godspell 5 until 10. But my workers kinda suck so I'm always staying way longer
godspell @godspell I'm also suffering from knee issues.
Lamby @momoichi are you bilingual? knee issues are tough, got any ice for them when you can? iv heard great things about biofreeze
godspell @godspell I am. And my knee feels like it's moving around like it clicks when I stand or walk. It was much worse before but I keep using a knee brace. I should just exercise rehab style to build knee muscles
Lamby @momoichi does the knee brace help? i hear back braces are really important as well
godspell @godspell Not really. It does help with the pain but the knee keeps clicking or creaking
Lamby @momoichi the brace is ment to keep you from bending it wrong, right?
godspell @godspell I have no idea. But I'll probably start exercising my knees tonight
godspell @godspell You think the pluto anime will be good
Lamby @momoichi can you exercise knees? isnt the issue the cartilage gets worn away from too frequent use? never read the manga so i cant speak to the anime
godspell @godspell Well you can. You build muscle around the knees. I honestly don't think I've worn down the cartilage it could be an unbalance muscle or a ligament issue
godspell @godspell Also they're doing an issekai for suicide squad
Lamby @momoichi of... of course it is... *deep sad sigh*
godspell @godspell Posted the trailer. Also I've been really liking the new animated superman show btw. They take a lot of inspiration from anime.
Lamby @momoichi im good lol, i do not plan to watch it. the first animated movie and the suicide squad was enough
godspell @godspell There's 2 or 3 animated movies for them. I like the idea. I really wanna watch it. But it probably doesn't have anything on the Harley Quinn animated show
Lamby @momoichi yeah it seems right up your alley. i heard rick and morty was getting an anime too, right?
godspell @godspell There's talks of it. But after Justin rolliand I doubt it
Lamby @momoichi *shrugs* why not? perfect news to bury his story. they already had like, two anime shorts? is it just a rumor or do they have a studio down?
godspell @godspell No he's been removed from all roles and fired. The domestic abuse charges were drop. His voicing duties for corvo has already happen and we saw the teaser and explanation for the voice change for solar opposites
godspell @godspell Rick and morty still hasn't been announce on who's doing it
Lamby @momoichi i knows hes been fired and the charges were dropped and hes singing his innocence, but most everyones forgotten already. you sure they didnt already replace him too? or am i just thinking of some youtube short clickbait?
Lamby @momoichi firing him hardly even ment anything since he hasnt written shit since season 2 and apparently simply actively annoyed everyone. they were probably relieved to be rid of him
godspell @godspell Korvo been replaced already. The new actor British or Australian for korvo. Korvo gets stab in the throat and to fix his voice they shoot him with a voice fixing ray but they screw up the settings
Lamby @momoichi hilarious. perfect way to address that, but it better sound good or ill cry (i love solar opposites)
godspell @godspell I think it's fine. They even had him run the intro how he's insulting you for thinking this is someone else. Not the other korvo voice. And it opens possibility of new voices for korvo if you think about it
Lamby @momoichi baaaaaaased i loved the little intro jokes
Lamby @momoichi any new little world content in the trailer?
godspell @godspell Just posted the season 4 trailer. And new little world Content? You mean the wall?
Lamby @momoichi yeah the wall. not gonna watch any trailers atm, can you tell me?
godspell @godspell Oh I just wanted you to see how they explain his new voice. And not yet no. I mean they did do a new sub plot with the silver somethings
Lamby @momoichi yeah but im not a fan of watching trailers cause i dont wanna spoil too much
godspell @godspell Ok can you take it as listening to the new voice. For me it's kinda jarring like I wonder if I can get used it
Lamby @momoichi you dont like the voice?
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godspell @godspell It's just odd after hearing one voice for 3 seasons
Lamby @momoichi true, korvo has korvo voice. this one doesnt fit, or just not use to it?
godspell @godspell Just not use to it. I mean 3 season with a voice actor can do that. English dub replacements are so odd to me
godspell @godspell They say for rick and morty they won't do that. They're gonna get someone who can get close to the voices
Lamby @momoichi i mean they have to, he voiced a lot of characters. but everyone has a rick and morty voice, its not hard to do
godspell @godspell Idk there's something different about it. Bc if it was so easy they would have announced an actor by now
Lamby @momoichi nah, no way they havent found someone yet, they probz have a bunch of options theyr keeping open for contract negotiations.
godspell @godspell We'll see. I keep seeing these auditions on Twitter and I think they suck
Lamby @momoichi no fuckin way iv seen compilations and they were really good. the cadence is so exaggerated naturally its so easy to replicate
godspell @godspell Idk I think they're pretty bad. Also btw I'm so excited. My brothers bought me a Freddy funko megazord
Lamby @momoichi aw thats nice
godspell @godspell Yeah it's the one nft I was missing. Bc the green ranger committed suicide so all the nfts went up. I wasn't paying 300 plus on it
Lamby @momoichi nice of him
godspell @godspell Yeah I'm still pretty sad that he killed himself
Lamby @momoichi wasnt the green one evil in lore or something? hes really popular
godspell @godspell He was evil then they saved him from the mind control.
Lamby @momoichi phew
godspell @godspell Yeah. The comics are really good for power ranger though. Also we should watch tmnt movie together
Lamby @momoichi not really interested in tmnt. im sure its a fun movie though
godspell @godspell I wanna watch it badly. I'm glad they act like teenagers this time around. Plus the villain not even shredder but the scientist who usually works for him
Lamby @momoichi wasnt tmnt created as a gag? why cant the bad guy be krang?
godspell @godspell Krang is a villain and usually different mutants. Not really when they were created they were very serious black and white stories
Lamby @momoichi no, theyr origin was a joke. thats why its so absurd. no one organically thinks 'teenage mutant ninja turtles... that sounds like a very good comic idea..."
godspell @godspell They did see it as goofy when they drew them in a comic they were working on the as they kept designing them they were inspired to create something awesome. Ususagi yojimbo a really good comic. I gave my brother the comic for his birthday
