why won't women make the first move?

Honestly, unless I am interested in the guy, I typically don't even wonder about whether they like me or not UNLESS they say something or make it insanely obvious. So me just saying "I'm not interested" could either be really presumptuous of me, or really awkward. And the too much sexualization part, yeah, it is... But at the same time, I don't enjoy finding out that people have been calling me a slut behind my back because I am pursuing a guy I'm interested in.

Coming from a women's POV, I grew up being told that girls who make the first move are desperate and no better than a street-walker. I think it's a stupid concept, but it's the kind of thing that sticks.

I was going to say the same thing ri_chan. It's one of those societal things. Women who make the first move are all sluts and so on, just like how guys who cry are all wimps. Societal ideas of gender just put so much pressure on people to conform to that ideal and shames those who don't. It's hard to break out of that mindset when that's how we were all taught 24/7

I have no Idea I'm totally obvious to when someone likes me until its too late and they say I liked you and always waited fro you to ask me out.

The whole "women who make the 1st move are sluts/desperate" thing is a really crap reason to not talk to a guy. Not every woman who comes up to me is looking for sex or a romantic relationship. The fact that people assume that just shows how immature and small minded that person is. I personally welcome women who have the confidence to initiate conversation. Confidence is the sexiest makeup any woman can wear. If you're too afraid of what someone MIGHT think of you for talking to me then we don't need to talk at all. Stop winking at me from across the room and don't send your friend over to tell me that you think I'm cute.

think cuz its tradition, if I see someone I like (online) ill make the first move but im off asking guys out, did once and got rejected, it hurts....xD then man sood ask ^.^!

Truth be told... If you like someone, you should tell em before its too late. Many times, If a guy feels too strong of a connection/attraction they're afraid of rejection just the same. Also, It only looks desperate if you are lol. otherwise, just getting close and expressing how you feel about them, rather than just asking someone out will "look" a lot better. showing interest, will work better than flat out asking them if they like you or if they want to go on a date. Really kind of makes it hard to do online ... because everyone really is looking for someone, but likely being picky in the process

Also, Rejection happens to everyone, and its going to happen to make things successful for you, quite honestly the sooner you know someone doesn't have interest in you, you now know it wasn't meant to be, and sometimes it just takes some time for it to come around to that person to realize who you really are, but forget that, I ain't nobody's plan "B" you either choose me, or you loose me.

@onee - so, since rejection hurts, we should ask you out so you can reject us and get that exact same feeling? That's fair, right? pfft..,

Hmmm... I guess I don't because I don't speak much in general until someone starts talking to me. I find a lot of guys on here atractive and would love a chat and something more but I also have my problem which turns most away so its easier for them to read my info and make the first move.