2020 US Presidential Election

quick run down on the civil rights act back in the 60s the democratic party was the party of the south, while republicans were the party of the north the south has always been racist, so those as their job is to represent there demographic they voted against the civil rights act guess which party is the party of those southern racists now? https://media0.giphy.com/media/AZ1PPDF8uO9MI/200.gif because they were a huge voting base and the republicans wanted them. that's how the parties switched, the republicans abandoned the north to take over the huge voting block int he south, so the democrats took the only voting base they had, and here we have modern day politics, thanks for coming to my tedtalk, hope you learned something.

Lamby, that is not true historically. https://www.socialjusticesurvivalguide.com/2018/01/08/the-democratic-partys-history-slavery-jim-crow-kkk/

sorry for taking a sec, had the craziest phone call yeah exactly, why is an industry that prides itself on being private/free-enterprise so involved with government? we have this failed system where once you obtain enough capital resources, you can just go to congress with a drafted law so you can make more money in your industry with loopholes and/or crooked subsidies, which pushes those spared expenses onto those who do NOT have the ability to lobby to congress (all of us). we see this with many industries, including but not limited to: alcohol and tobacco, healthcare, charter schools, private prisons, oil/energy, and so much more. it would be foolhardy to try and rationalize the situation in any other way. this country may have been founded on discarding an oppressive government, but in it's current state it is equally if not more oppressive. that is the genuine reality that we all face. this bastardized form of free-enterprise is very true to our survival-of-the-fittest world. but that doesn't make it the best way to live, especially when we all have the cognitive ability to break the chains of instinct and to work together to better understand our reality. a really smart dude once said something like: "socialism for the wealthy, rugged individualism for the rest of us" socialized healthcare works in every western nation that has it. sure oil lords from UAE don't go to those countries for care, but then again, you and I aren't oil warlords haha. i'd rather smoke gas and chill out in canada then be in this shittersville for much longer to be totally honest

Exactly, personal anecdotes are entirely subjective. Nobody knew that the recession was going to come until it was too late. Democrat, Republican, Libertarian or independent economists. This would be of the President is King system of thought, it happened under the president's watch ergo it is his fault. When people realized that something was wrong you had mere months to brace for the impact. A lot of this involved selling off stocks and hurt the situation even more. As far as Obama rescuing the country, there wasn't much that he did to help the situation. It had mostly fixed itself. Government programs had done little to assist the matters in question since all the industries that had received stimulus ended in the negative anyways for years to come. The public services in the style of FDR's New Deal was nothing significant. What would have been the wisest idea to do would be to give general tax breaks to banking and automotive industries and we would end up with the same result minus a massive impact on the Federal Debt. As far as the Southern Strategy, that is a modern term for something that never came to fruition. Looking at the general scope of things it goes back to the 1930s and FDR where Blacks overwhelmingly voted Democrat due to FDR's social programs and this didn't change generally speaking until the 1964 Civil Rights Act since LBJ took credit for signing the bill. So we end up with Richard Nixon who had traditionally done things in favor of the Black community starting with the first example in Philadelphia where he threatened to cut union contracts that did not admit Blacks into the union. There was an appeal made to Southern Democrats, but nearly all did not bite. There were three examples of Democrats becoming Republican during this period and not too many voters. Both the Democrats and Republicans were looking for a way to weaponize Black voters, LBJ's idea was to hold on to the new Black voters and Nixon by using his former record. It wasn't until 1980 that the South had become Republican with the advent of Ronald Reagan who advocated for state's rights. Some call this "racist", I fail to see this since 1964 signaled the death of Jim Crow laws so an attempt to bring them back was now an impossibility. Now what actually happened with the advent of the Republican voting base in the South was a moderation of Southern society. KKK membership and of similar groups took a nosedive during the 70s as Republican party membership grew. Were there still racists? Yes those are going to exist, but what we were seeing was a transformation of the South. So to simply say "Southern Strategy" is a massive reductionist argument from what actually happened.

you used your anecodote, so i used mine I'm sorry, i was saying the wrong president this entire time xD NIXON declared the war on drugs, not regan (so easy to confuse the two though) the war on drugs is believed to be the biggest factor when it comes to black poverty thanks to the revolving door of the prison system also nixon was openly racist.... "The day after the United Nations voted to recognize the People’s Republic of China, then–California Governor Ronald Reagan phoned President Richard Nixon at the White House and vented his frustration at the delegates who had sided against the United States. “Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did,” Reagan said. “Yeah,” Nixon interjected. Reagan forged ahead with his complaint: “To see those, those monkeys from those African countries—damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!” Nixon gave a huge laugh." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/ronald-reagans-racist-conversation-richard-nixon/595102/ federal spending skyrocketed because Obama was having to bail out these businesses " The Obama administration implemented a number of important fiscal measures, notably the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. It also provided strong moral support for the Fed (including the reappointment of Ben Bernanke, who had been President Bush’s nominee). The administration also restored the financial sector faster than expected and carried out a highly successful rescue of the car industry." https://www.ft.com/content/b5b764cc-d657-11e6-944b-e7eb37a6aa8e meanwhile, republicans were crying trying to stop Obama the whole time Obama ABSOLUTELY fixed the economy so you agree that the dixiecrats were largely racist, and that is why the dems at the time voted against the civil rights act of the time, right? so ill ask the logic that when the republicans took this voter base they didn't take the racists ones too? can you explain this better for me? it wasn't 'reductive' it was completely what happened, and wev seen since how the Democratic party was been the party that has tried to implement social safety nets for low income people (which namely involves black people) while the republicans have tried to cut the ability of blacks to vote? what about how the repuplicans were against the (i forget what its called fuck, I'm spaghetti brains right now) new plan to implement lessons on systemic racism in schools while democrats are for it? its just undeniable that republicans pander to racists, while democrats pander to minorities

skelemby-senpai, you know i'm in your corner here, but don't forget about billy clinton and his 3 strikes shit. that directly targeted and affected inner cities and contributed to the preschool-to-prison pipeline. big money democrats are just as bad and a part of the systemic oppression problem as the blatantly racist/generally xenophobic GOP, which is a good chunk of our dem. senators. it's more like the persona that those dems put on is a way nicer one that appeals to humanity and unity. obvi we DO have some boys in our corner like bernie but they are the exception, not the rule*, is the way i feel about things

@frozenxheavens go back in this thread, iv condemned bill Clinton multiple times and even argued with my mom about it (she loves him) he is also the reason why immigration got so bad, he halted the revolving door system of people coming to America to work and that made people just start staying i can condemn bill Clinton and point out how the republican party is the party of racism quite easily, because wer looking at the parties in general, and the policies and beliefs pushed by those parties and the circles they cultivated because of them

"n American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy