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I seriously think this is gonna turn into a violent af race war after looking at twitter. People are angry at white privilege and think every white person is against them getting rights. I support everyone having rights and think anyone should not be afraid walking down a street past an officer. But saying white people are the problem is not gonna fix anything. Fuck I wish I was latino man.

Ayy if I was latino I would have women for days too B) #LatinPassion (Foreal kinda worried to live in this country rn with shit going how it is, and no I am not putting my fear above a person of color's fear of being shot for no reason. Worried of war.)

Brazil was literally the last country in the world to abolish slavery. But still, we were a Liberal Monarchy instead of a Traditional one due to our political system. Still, Brazil was never as Liberal as the US, even though we had things you didn't, such as decriminalizing gay people for example. Also, being Liberal doesn't mean be in the forefront of things. It is you guys' fault for pushing the propaganda you were always the forefront of modern freedom and civility. Surprise! You weren't, other countries were better than you in other areas. The maximum you were, it was a global power. Slavery itself was an endemic problem brought back by the Modern Era, but still surpassed by it. Racism itself was a consequence of "You are on sale. Well what a shame bc your life is mine now!". Yeah, I say Capitalism, the very system I endorse in society. But it doesn't make people who defend limits into it Socialists or Fascists. Heck, even Traditional Monarchies embraced it due to such a profitable market at the time. Europe, America, Latin America and even Africa profited heavily from slavery bc they were the ones who sold their captives. As I said, Liberalism isn't a one-liner of synonym of progressiveness. But anyone can acknowledge slavery, racism and other kinds of bullshit are contradicting to it. Still, with all its impurities, it's the best political system one can ask for. If you are really wanting for a perfect rendition of Liberalism, then wait sitted in a chair, bc you are going to die before you see it. 1. Return to BRITISH tradition 2. Reject capitalism, as it is a product of Liberalism 3. Completely cut relations with China and Russia instead of the sore show of "commercial war" he put up. Only China is winning with this 4. Do away with the post-WWII architecture 5. Completely alter the whole country's aesthetics and art to be "glorious" 6. Use the government's structure to endorse Christianity, prohibiting any other religion and curbing secular thought etc. He can't do any of those. Why? Because outside of his blatant ignorance, it isn't compatible with the current world we live in anymore. The current west would need to be crushed politically, economically and socially as it is incompatible with Fascism.

wer not talking about brazil, wer talking about America. the majority of countries that took part in slavery had already abolished it while America and brazil were still doing it (i wouldn't classify brazil as a progressive country either but idk much about it) no shit we were the best country, i mean we were for a time economically and are still the top world power, but wer sailing on an old wave that's slowly sinking. so yeah, like i said, we were not founded as a liberal country. we were always traditionalist and were extremely slow to progress socially. remember. women couldn't have their own bank accounts until the late 70s. jim crow was in the 60s. people are alive today that suffered through jim crow. we ain't progressive what do you mean by liberalism? wer a capitalist democratic republic on an amazing piece of land geographically, rich with natural resourcess. that's why our country is so successful. not because of liberalism. 1. no? it doesn't necessarily have to be English traditionalism. trump has always been extremely vague about what 'make America great again' really stands for, and what passage of time we should go back to, it it absolutely still signals to going back in our history, and with that could come the cultural aspects of that time as well. unless you can show how he isn't for conservative culture of way back, because from what iv seen him say he is extremely conservative socially. 2. nope, don't have to reject capitalism, and infact disliking communism is often a big symptom of fascism. and ill remind you how trump loves to throw around the phrase 'radical left' aka red scare dogwhistle 3. not sure what you mean by this? if this is something he would do if he was fascist, but yeah hes absolutely implemented isolationist policies and pulled the us from the paris climate accord, the Iran nuclear deal, as well as the WHO. so yeah he has this trait too lol 4. extraordinarily arbitrary standard to put on a fascist. anyone can prefer and implement their own tastes in architecture... 5. again, totally arbitrary when wer talking about something as extreme as fascism 6. America has a lot of checks and balances so no, he isn't about to ban all religions even if he wants to. he grandstands on his religion though and claims to be evangelical (hes lying and just wants there votes, but still) he is absolutely not secular. so to you military has nothing to do with fascism? black bagging protesters has nothing to do with fascim to you? art has more to do with fascism then spreading distrust in journalists and even calling for their arrests???? oh also he loves actual fascist leaders like kim jong un and duterte (sorry i probz butchered his name)

Well, if you could compare 'Muhrica with England, I felt the right to compare 'Muhrica with Brazil. Capitalism itself is a product of Liberalism roughly speaking. At the time, Liberalism defied aristocratical rule and opposed excessive centralization that Absolute Monarchies had. The US was always considered the embodiment of Liberal Capitalism, that's part of the reason why it prospered. Wait. Why is Liberalsm a synonym of progressiveness? Never was. True, progressiveness is more possible under Liberalism, but not a synonym... that's anachronical. 1. The most of what he could attain as a conservative was atrition with LGBT and Black movements. Rembering Movements are not a synonym for a cause. Besides, when you say "MAGA" being also a cultural proposal is pure conjecturation. Dump proposed the US to prioritize itself rather than other causes around the world and try to put the US at the top of world as it was, to which he failed. 2. If capitalism itself is a product of Liberalism, why a Fascist would want a product of an antagonical system to perpetuate? Fascism denies Liberalism and Socialism to the point of persecution. 3. I give that one to you. I would conjecture hard if I am to resume from there. 4. 4 and 5 should've be the same thing. Fascists hold pretty dearly the idea of aesthetics even more than Conservatives do, as they are naturally traditionalistic, so there's that: while liberals and socialists are more pragmatic when it comes to buildings and architecture, fascists aren't. They necessarily will want an aesthetic that inspires national pride and virtue. And correct. Art and Aesthetics are definitely more defining of a Fascist than their innate authoritarism. Doing away with dissidents is not exclusive of Fascism. Liberals, Socialists and Fascists alike have used of this to secure a rule and alienate the masses. This act is more prominent between Socialists and Fascists, though. Fascism is and always be above all attuned the culture of a civilization rather than a mere power project. I would say you're wrong by labeling KJU as a Fascist... but tbh I know he is no Socialist. NK is almost an Absolute Monarchy. Still, what Duterte wants to transform the Philippines anyway? In an ancient Philippinean pagan state?

Police were justified i feel. Look at how many people were storming that building. They not only found a pipe bomb, but someone shot on the senate house floor and like it was pure chaos. Nah police were in the right. Sure that lady may not have deserved it, but she also made it that far without even so much as single finger layed on her. These are american citizens, you think they would be able to storm that building if they weren't?

No our police need to abide by the same rules as the military police. Each bullet fired is held accountable, and there needs to be probable cause. You cant even shoot people if they are freaking armed and in front of you but simply not attacking.

why compare america to brazil? america is descended from England, so is an apt comparison. brazil comes out of nowhere. dude lemme get this straight to you fascism has more to do with art appreciation than military authoritarianism? because your extremely, undeniable, horrifically wrong on that.... hitler wouldn't have been a fascist if he just didn't care about art, right? ridiculous. and yes, north korea is fascist.... its more fascist than it is communist.... i can't argue with you if you honestly do not believe north korea or duterte is fascist. "Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe." this is the definition of pure fascism