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Lunar Lone Wolf @kameiya
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Lunar Lone Wolf @kameiya
I really like that Lee.
shinu @shinu
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shinu @shinu
That's a nice story, but it's not going to convert anyone.
In the first place, we know how the Earth was created, how the atmosphere formed, and how everything on the Earth began. None of it was done by a person, unless your claim is that that person is responsible for everything including what we do, but that goes against free will. The primary point of discussion that we don't know is what was the universe like before The Big Bang, but you'd better believe we intend to find out.
mightylee @mightylee
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mightylee @mightylee
First the big bang is a theory not a fact and do you think it's stupid to believe in a divine being while you believe in a mere human battling degenerative motor-neurone disease sitting in a wheel chair telling lies in your ears where the fuck is your regular thinking
Lishifu @hakutaku
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Lishifu @hakutaku
(^_-)
ohnoes @ohnoes
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ohnoes @ohnoes
Show me a god....Just show me one, just one of the thousands said to exsist by humans the world over.
I won't deny I believe there to be a creator, but I won't deny I can't prove it.
Also, understand what "theory" means, as it applies to the same science that helped make that thing you're using to go onto this thing it also helped with. (Computers and the internet...)
How 'bout that?
mightylee @mightylee
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mightylee @mightylee
there cannot be several things exactly the same, for in that case there would not be several things, but the same thing itself.
ohnoes @ohnoes
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ohnoes @ohnoes
(I think that was the point.)
shinu @shinu
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shinu @shinu
Scientific theory doesn't mean that someone just sat there and thought it up and now we all believe it. We investigate as much as we can to prove or disprove the theory. Technically speaking, nothing is scientific fact, because the premise of science is that new information can disprove previously understood ideas.
And no I don't listen to Stephen Hawking. I listen to research.
The Big Bang is extremely supported by facts. The biggest of which is the fact that everything within the universe is moving apart from one central location. This is what people are referring to when they say "the universe is expanding". At that one central point, whatever it is that happened, happened like an explosion, and all the matter that resulted is now moving apart. Our Earth is within our Solar system, so it's not as if we have to worry about the Earth moving away from our sun, but the galaxies over time are drifting apart. With no real air resistance, there's not much to stop the momentum that resulted from the big bang.
So you might notice that we don't have a solid idea on what it is that exploded, just that the explosion happened. Realistically, it probably was a very large star. Larger than any star we know about today. Inside a star, all the hydrogen and helium that's within the universe gets absorbed, and the atoms that make those up get reassembled. When that star explodes, those reassembled atoms are shot out as different elements, different from hydrogen or helium. Stars are basically furnaces for all the different kinds of matter that we have.
And Stephen Hawking is disabled. It didn't ruin his ability to think. You can prove or disprove anything he says, but at least you can speak to him or listen to him.
mightylee @mightylee
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mightylee @mightylee
Now I can say that computers were not made instead of that they simply came together and became whole but again you will say that you have historical records that tells who made it and when but how is that different than the historical books like the bible that tells about the past. Also there are a lot of theories that were considered part of science but were proven wrong like Einstein’s Static Universe theory so if you use that kind of thinking than they are part of science therefore we can't rely on theories. so if we can't prove that the earth started because of the "big bang theory " than there are no other options except it was made by someone.
shinu @shinu
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shinu @shinu
Because you're not meant to believe in a history book just like if it were the bible. The history book could be wrong, and it's part of science to acknowledge that. And that's how we treat the bible. There are some things that that might be accurate, but that doesn't mean the rest of it is true. We know evolution is true, but the bible doesn't account for it. We know dinosaurs existed, but the bible doesn't account for it. Rather, the bible comes from the standpoint that those things aren't true. The contradiction already means we need to make the determination that it might not be true, and then we further investigate what other contradictions we can find as well as what we know to be provable or disprovable.
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