Will Nintendo Follow Sega Out Of The Console Market?
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Will Nintendo Follow Sega Out Of The Console Market?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyXiFyo12Ic
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There needs to be a metroid prime or something. Then Nintendo is love Nintendo is life
Rain @rainx
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Rain @rainx
It's really a simple answer. The difference between Sega in 2001 and Nintendo in 2017 is money.
Sega was in dire financial straights by the time they even launched Dreamcast in 1999. They had lost over a billion dollars total on Saturn and Dreamcast was their last ditch effort to try and turn a profit again. It sold okay early on, but it wasn't enough to make an extended effort with the console and they had to can it after about 2 years on the market and go software only.
Nintendo on the other hand as of right now has at least a few billion dollars in the bank despite the Wii U being an overall fiscal failure for them, they've had a succesful handheld line of products through now (something Sega never really had outside of the Game Gear which was long dead by the time DC launched), and Switch for all intents and purposes is selling like gangbusters right now and Nintendo has been profitable the last couple of years even before it launched.
It's easy to make correlations between Sega then and Nintendo now, but at the end of the day, had Sega had been on better fiscal footing back in 2000-2001, they wouldn't have canned Dreamcast as quickly as they did. They didn't HAVE a choice but to go software only. Nintendo is in no danger of even being close to that same fiscal boat and can support a floundering console for a few years with no real major danger of going belly up like the Wii U did.
If Switch continues to sell well like it is now, third parties will be hard pressed to ignore it (like Wii U) despite it being underpowered compared to the PS4/XBO. The good news is Switch isn't nearly as a huge a step back as the Wii U was in comparison, Switch runs a lot of modern engines like UE4 and Unity, as well as having an Nvidia GPU that is a snap to develop for.
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I love extreme g, metroid prime, Wave race, Turok. i bet there won't be a shooter or cool racing game again. I'm not sure if I want a switch. Instead there's splatoon and Mario is going down hill. You never know, at least Zelda is good and there's going to be a good Pokémon I hope. I guess wait till e3
InfernalMonsoon @infernalmonsoon
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InfernalMonsoon @infernalmonsoon
Nintendo has been making a LOT of really terrible moves these past five years but its hard to say if they'll actually lose out in the console market. The Switch seems to have put the breaks on that fate and if they put out really good games and continue to provide strong support for the switch and their future systems with marketing that's not batshit stupid like the Wii U's then chances are they'll retain a strong audience in their games and systems. If they fail in the console market then chances are we'll see Nintendo properties on the other systems.
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They say if they don't make make a console anymore then they will stop making games. They said they would never make games for phones and they did.
ceresbane @ceresbane
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ceresbane @ceresbane
If Nintendo keeps living in Lalaland and thinks it can pull off nonsense actions like
1.Not having cross platform purchases (looking at you virtual console).
2. Your nintendo account doesn't save your purchases on your 3DS (thats right, get it stolen and your purchases are GONE and need to call Nintendo to add them all again, if you can even remember every purchase).
3. No Virtual console on launch of the switch to bolster the switch library.
4. A tech demo for full price?
5. dead pixels are not a fault? Its industry standard
6. terrible online play and now you have to PAY FOR IT!?
7. switch non-removable batteries and will force people to pay Nintendo to replace them once they've faded.
8. A "console" with just 32gb of memory...and to add more you need to cash in yourself for a high end microSD AND 8GB OF THAT 32 IS USED FOR OS!
9. Nintendo fans have been wanting a star fox game for ages. So instead have star fox 64 again with rubbish controls.
10. Hey fanboys we're making a prime game! Yaaaaa. But its nothing but a cash-in for a franchise name! As opposed to simply making a new prime game which would have sold better.... genius nintendo...
11.Hey... I heard you liked four sword adventure. How bout a full priced multiplayer game with a life span of about 6 months. But don't worry you can play 1p if you want (no one wants it...but its there... to be laughed at because its ridiculously unplayable).
12. Splatoon was nintendo pulling off a sega. Selling a beta as a full game.
13. Splatoon 2 is not Splatwon. FIRE YOUR WHOLE MARKETING TEAM.
14. FRIEND CODES
15. mobile phone app... for basic online communications is mandatory as opposed to it being an alternative to on console communications... oh dear god... genius... nintendo... ge-genius...people are seriously putting that online play money to good use...
16. Artificially creating scarcity to hike up the price of their products. The switch sold like crazy guys. It was sold out. MAYBE BECAUSE IT WAS AVAILABLE IN INTENTIONALLY LIMITED NUMBERS SO ITS GUARANTEED TO SELL OUT MIGHT BE THE REASON?
17: Amiibo locked... content... and also another example of artificial scarcity.
Ok I'm done. Let the fanboys white knight away.
neeto @neet_one
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neeto @neet_one
They still make a killing on handhelds. Considering how the switch was designed I think it's safe to say they're leaning mainly to the portable end of things. In the home market side of things they face heavy competition from Sony and Microsoft with much more powerful systems. steering away from the demographic those systems target helped them a lot in the days of the wii, but that didn't exactly last. On the other hand, poor sales for psp/vita give them a huge edge in the mobile market. They aren't gonna drop that any time soon.
VeZeal @axlex
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VeZeal @axlex
Eh doubt it. At least not with the next ten or twenty years.
Be nice if they brought out more games that people want. Same with reviving old franchises that fans want returning.
It's just been a huge wave of ups and downs. The ups being short lived and the downs remembered a lot longer
gametalesj @gametalesj
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gametalesj @gametalesj
I don't think so, their handhelds are still selling well. I agree that the WiiU wasn't that successful. Not sure what will happen with the Switch (the idea itself is nice).
I admire that they still try to be innovative, other companies just keep the old controls or add features like share video (which isn't allowed in some areas of a game and each time it shows the user an annoying popup when that happens).
When they did have something innovative that a lot of people liked other companies started copying it, see Playstation Move. :D
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