Double Standards: Sexism and Feminism

As far as who pays the dinner check goes (by default) its just what the guy does. I remember my first date when my best friend had to spot our meal (he third wheeled) I felt like the lowest scum on the earth despite not having a job at the time. I apologized to her and everything. (More on my best friend later when I get on some real shit ya'll been pussyfooting around)

@verucassault What they want is worth what they choose. Take note gentleman. You could buy her favorite restaurant for her, a new dress car and shoes as well as personally serenade them with the voice of the great legend David Bowie himself take her to bed and please her in ways no man has before and still at any point she has every right to stop and leave. If a woman wants to fuck you then you don't need to pay for it. And if she doesn't then you can't pay for it. I pay for dates if I feel especially generous but it's dumb to think brownie points get you sex. Oh and ladies, the same applies the other way. Twice I've had women act like something was off in the universe just because I was not interested in sex with them.

@veru lmao i strive to be that^ but ppl always outmaneuver me O.O da fuck did all of my friends signed for ninja school and i just missed it?

Ian Ardouin-Fumat, a 25-year-old information designer from France, says that the expectation that men should pay for dates in America makes little sense. Rather, it is part of an overall, unequal structure that systematically puts the expectation on men at all moments of the dating process to call the shots and be in the driver’s seat. “At least half of the dates I went on, I am looking at the girls and I am thinking so ‘where’s your wallet?’ You are actually expected to pay the bill.” Ardouin-Fumat, who has analyzed his and his male friends’ dating experiences from a data perspective, thinks the rise of mobile dating apps and websites has exacerbated pre-existing gender dynamics, rather than shattered them to pieces. “To be successful on these platforms, it’s all about conforming to the norms,” he says. “This often involves dumbing yourself down and unquestioningly embracing gender stereotypes. “The market is skewed. You have a pool of people. You want to be as effective as possible. You are going to accept a few rules that are going to make you statistically more successful.” When asked what men expected to call the shots entails, Ardouin-Fumat, who lives in New York, hardly misses a beat. “You send the first message, you entertain the conversation, you ask her out on a date. You always pick the date and the place. You always pay for the first drink no matter what. You always make the move to hookup with that person. You are the first one to call after the hookup. Above all, don’t be too interesting, don’t be too passionate. No weird jokes.” This feels like a pity: Ardouin-Fumat’s cutting humor is immensely entertaining. Women offering to get a round of drinks sometimes happens, he says, and when it does, it comes as a welcome surprise. “Thanks for doing your share in gender equality,” the brooding Frenchman exclaims sarcastically. For Ardouin-Fumat, who is thrilled to have recently met a woman who plans dates in places like board game bars and with whom he immediately felt comfortable having a debate, the New York dating landscape appears completely contradictory. “It’s actually insane that New York City, which is such a progressive city in terms of gender equality, we have such crazy rules accepted by everyone about the way dates should happen,” he says. “It’s very backwards.”

Arc There was one time a woman actually offered to pay for my dinner on the first date. I had told her I couldn't really afford the outing but she insisted. But yes, she did expect something after in return. ^^^Again? Quit talkin' shit about me Arc.

All i want is to get some grub in me, since I like to eat in general out or in. I like to take people to my favorite joints and show them like look at that dank ass meal, if sex is strung along well idk i just wanted to show u that fucking nice sushi joint. 10/10

We ended up getting to that point (me and my ex). More on the real later this is the soft safe stuff compared to where Im going