Ugh I fucking hate Christianity

It's kinda entertaining for me living where I do. I don't typically get harassed and people don't try to convert me. When I'm somewhere and they do the "lets now our heads" business I'm respectfully quiet but start laughing when I meet eyes with someone who isn't bowing their head or praying. This usually gets them smiling too. Meh, I used to have a bug up my ass about religion too, but it's one of the last things I need to stress about.

If anything, religion is more of a symbol anymore. Maybe I'm naive, but I don't see any religion as some mass threat. People's ideologies? That's an issue, but I don't see religion as an inherent threat(Duh... One in the same, but not always as extreme as you might think.). I'm not pressured to believe in this sky daddy or that sky daddy. Hell, my family (my parents anyways) are staunch Christians, but even when I told them I was agnostic, they weren't out to get me or disown me. Sure, me and my dad argue religious teachings, but that is the same as before.XD People often use religion for their own benefit, but that's about all I see.. You want to appeal to the general public and as such you'll claim something other than what you truly believe and practice. Honestly, it was that kind of hypocrisy that got me away from organized religion, but I do see a lot of ethical benefits (Of course, cherry picked benefits, but benefits.).

In this case, religions are the same way as countries. Every side has it's fair share of assholes. I find it quite hilarious and kinda sad for people to hate the entire concept of Christianity and everything it stands for, just because they happened to run into a few brainless morons among their ranks. Yet another example that people are getting more and more lazy and ignorant. Because it's always easier to just throw everyone in the same bag, instead of taking your time and learning to tell the difference between right and wrong huh? xD

>Have you not met a kind Christian? I have, but thats not enough to prove anything. >It's an isolated incident No, it isn't: https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/zm8ij/my_wife_is_trying_to_take_away_our_three_kids/ http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2010/11/21/did-father-lose-custody-of-children-because-of-his-agnosticism/ You assume because its been struck down most of the time that its totally fine - sure, I'll grant that its great that its struck down, but the mental and financial strain it presents is ever present. >The mother did the right thing. No, I don't think we can objectively say she did the right thing. Someone shouldn't have to be force-fed different beliefs to get custody of his/her kids. >I'm not a dick to my friends- they respect me and I take an interest in what they believe. My friends who are Christian are typically Christian in only name. Some of them have divorced, almost all of them drink, often heavily, and they act just like me with a different label applied. Does that mean I lose out on potential friends? Sure. But the question is are they worth the headaches? >any religion as some mass threat. Its not that its a mass threat. Its that they're willing to chip away our rights like the Nazis did to the Jewish people. And yeah yeah Godwin's Law this and cliched trope that and "Its not even in the same ballfield" - shut up. Atheists are the number 1 hated group in the US. I speak for many an atheist when I say we deserve to live without having to lie, be force-fed propaganda or be harassed. >they weren't out to get me or disown me Neither were my parent's but I've already verbally agreed to leave everything in my grandparents and father's will to my siblings - i don't want any part of their cult and they know if they treat me like shit then I'm up and out of their lives without a second chance.

That's on the fault of the significant other. Being an agnostic or atheist is NOT a valid reason for CPS to get involved, and they won't do it. However people that are going after those with vengeance like these WILL lie and escalate every little thing. It's NOT the beliefs that get CPS involved, it's constant reports of child neglect or endangerment, whether they're legitimate claims or not.

Huh... Give 'em the finger on the way out? Congrats!(Your parents) Really, I understand where you're coming from Elder,but I guess I've never seen persecution of atheists on such a grand scene as you're trying to convey. I just don't completely understand your "opinion", I guess. Thanks for the preemptive "shut up" though. I would've understood without resorting to extremes. I more than understand that ANY extreme belief, religious or not, can be a very bad thing. I just don't see this nation as Christian even if the majority may claim it as such. I do see the "power struggle" that's put under a guise.We always need a scape goat, I suppose.

>The mother did the right thing. No, I don't think we can objectively say she did the right thing. Someone shouldn't have to be force-fed different beliefs to get custody of his/her kids. YES. She did. This falls into my line of work. A person who doesn't go through with something that makes them uncomfortable to get their children back doesn't deserve to have their children back. What she had to do was a walk in the park compared to addicts that have to go through rehab for the courts to restore rights. I agree that it sucks she had to go through it but like I said, it gives her ammunition when she goes to sue AND she got her freaking kids back.

>That's on the fault of the significant other. Being an agnostic or atheist is NOT a valid reason for CPS to get involved, and they won't do it. No, but these cases support that they use it as a supporting reason, often keystone to holding the entire case. >I've never seen persecution of atheists on such a grand scene as you're trying to convey. Its not that its a grand scene. Nazism started out grassroots, deep seated distrust of a people followed by a little push by people who know how to make themselves heard, and then they get someone in power who can follow through with it. We're at the grassroots/distrust stage, and if the shoots keep coming up, then when someone says the magic words it goes from bad to worse instantly for us. >Thanks for the preemptive "shut up" though. That was explicitly to ward off comments about my Nazism comparison. >I just don't see this nation as Christian even if the majority may claim it as such. As much as I don't want it to be, its the reality. >We always need a scape goat, I suppose. Always in a Western nation this is the case. >YES. She did. This falls into my line of work. A person who doesn't go through with something that makes them uncomfortable to get their children back doesn't deserve to have their children back. What justification can you have for this? Are you a social worker? Do you work with CPS or domestic relations court? And what gives you the right to determine whether a parent's trials and tribulations are enough to get to see their kids? If it was something like anger management, I'd agree with you, but religious indoctrination has nothing to do with the ability of a parent to properly look after children.

>You called it. I'm the scary government monster that steals children from their families. Only I'm not the monster. Chill out I never called you any names, I asked your occupation, and then asked why you think someone should have to have their first amendment rights violated to be able to see their kids? If I were in her position I'd refuse and countersue the state on the spot, get an injunction against the court order and that would generally be the end of the problems.