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atticuselias
Read the news, gather information from multiple outlets, and make your own decisions yourself. They put info out there, biased or untruthful, but its up to you what to believe or let it affect you. I prefer bbc for news myself though. It's nice to get an outside look, and they had fantastic coverage of the queens jubilee this past year.
xueli
xueli @xueli commented on fox news
Dec 20, 12 at 1:58am
I wouldn't say fox news is the only news that outright lies. Most of them do when it fits their slant on things. Religion is a big one too. CNN and MSNBC were right up there with Fox about the degrading of social morality due to a rise in atheism. Personally, I prefer NPR but I like to listen to all the other stations
rezikai
Rezikai @rezikai commented on fox news
Dec 20, 12 at 4:04am
xueli I wouldn't say fox news is the only news that outright lies. Most of them do when it fits their slant on things. Religion is a big one too. CNN and MSNBC were right up there with Fox /agree Start searching CNN/MSNBC/FOX news websites or YahooNews for example, it gets hella more biased. Fox actually does a "worse" job in hiding the biased and subtle slights in views then CNN or MSNBC does, hence we recognize it easier and think they are even more biased. Personal experience from the last 3-4 presidential campaigns have shown Fox is just worse at hiding/more open about bashing others/being biased. For example on Yahoonews atm there's a story of a 16 yr old who shot his 16 yr friend with a shotgun after they wrestled around after playing paintball with each other. Yahoo described the scene where the 1 boy put a shell into the gun and fired it. Tragic yes, then they said it was a semioutmatic weapon..... this is where i scratched my head. There was nothing semi-automatic about it. There was no clip no auto-recoil no self loader mentioned. The boy had to load and lock the gun himself before firing. Yet these facts of the gun if they were true were not in the article, were told a "semi automatic weapon" aka a weapon that can reload by a quick pump/recoil action was used. I was like really? Are we just playing scare tactics now because technically nearly every handgun made is semi-automatic ... is there some slight against the word Semi-automatic that were supposed to see as bad now?... apparently it makes more vanilla america scared to hear about it... and the fact they get scared is even more sad. If you really want your mind blown think like a hard core conservative for a month and watch MSNBC and CNN, and then try to view the subtle slights... you'll be surprised.
atticuselias
Saying its automatic makes it sound more robotic and distances itself from ourselves. Makes it much easier to find disgust with when you consider it not one of your own kind of thing. But yeah, all news is biased. That's why you gotta think for yourself.
tobitairu
Dec 20, 12 at 10:03am
Bias in news bothers me. Journalism, at its core, is idealistically meant to provide the mass with information, in particular to be a watchdog of governmental action and policy. It's a means by which the mass, "we the people", can make informed decisions about the people we elect into key positions of our government. Because of its bias, it has not only failed at this, it shuns the ideal. If you don't become biased at a certain point, you become jaded, or you become relegated to small stories or even fired for "not complying with the views and goals of the company". Basically, true journalism is shunted, while propaganda and "safe" entertainment become the model. It really does bother me that we have to force our way through reams of useless, disjointed, or incorrect information, simply to discover a detail that will help us form an opinion. Those details should be provided up front, objectively, by the organizations we gave power to for that specific purpose. We don't really have news media anymore. We just have a new kind of reality show.
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xueli
xueli @xueli commented on fox news
Dec 20, 12 at 11:57am
Liberal bias isn't really any better. I mean, take the current tragedy of newtown for example. All the liberal articles are now up in arms about keeping guns out of the hands of the "crazies". What they don't say is how only 4% of the violence in the US is actually attributed to mental illness and that alcohol and drug use are more likely to result in acts of violence. They're all speculations since the investigation isn't even closed yet. No one knows about what the shooter was thinking or if he had a lot of previous experiences with guns. None of the other news stations are even talking about how they don't yet know everything. I think the only one who has even mentioned about not having all the facts is NPR. LIberal media also tends to gloss over drone attacks like they don't happen and paint Israel like it's poor and defenseless and all the other arab nations are just picking on them.
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tobitairu
Dec 20, 12 at 3:00pm
I think you demonstrated my point a little Sandman, when you said you don't mind a bit of liberal bias because it's closer to the truth. Do we hold them to a lesser standard because we feel we can forgive them their bias? I know I'm an idealist, I recognize this about myself, and I understand the reality of the situation. However, I still feel that any news media, in any given situation, should present facts, not facts colored by bias. Objectivity is a core virtue in journalism, and something that has been constantly ignored. I feel that we should neither forgive nor ignore a drop in standards for something we, as a mass of people, rely on so readily.
momoichi
Lamby @momoichi commented on fox news
Dec 20, 12 at 8:16pm
nuthing on fox news i true, even if it was true once fox news says it its audomatticly now a lie
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