debate

Just wanna say I have enjoyed this conversation it's a nice way to kill time. Morals are subjective, animals don't have them so it could be argued they don't really need to be called into question with dealing with them I agree torturing said animals is wrong and conditions they are kept in should be called into question but in the end lamby they'll just be slaughtered and eaten That is also to say you have no choice but to bear witness to the farming Whether or not you take part in it is up to you

if thats your closing argument then ill say morals are not subjective we all agree rape is bad, harming children is bad, and needless killing is bad the same reason why we give our fellow humans moral consideration is also why we should logically extend that to animals. they are capable of suffering just like us. farm animals don't want to die, and yet we kill them anyways just for fun. its no different then torturing a cat. just because one person becoming vegan doesn't halt the entire industry doesn't mean you shouldn't be morally consistent with yourself. just because people get murdered doesn't mean you should just murder anyways. its an appeal to futility. i do have a choice, and so does everyone else veganism is economically viable, its environmentally responsible, healthy, and more of all, morally consistent

Okay now, I've been wanting to do this for a really long time. I know this a really touchy subject but I just keep thinking about this. It's pure jest, just humor. We all got our views. I'm not much of a debater and don't want to get into it. I just think about this when the thread is revived. Let history be my judge. https://i.ibb.co/f0r1r1T/4a118g.jpg

"i do have a choice, and so does everyone else " <======== THIS IS THE EXACT POINT I was trying to make this whole time...what is with this debate ffs XDD

never was there a truer meme fuck I love debating veganism I'm starting to think its more of a fetish then an ideology for me

koro you have a choice, and you choose to give money to people that torture and kill animals that's immoral how is it different from a guy paying another guy to torture a cat and video tape it?

Ghost that was a needless post but I give it 8/10 cause I like your zingers Morals are subjective If everyone knows it's wrong why do they do it? We still have rapists abusers and murderers who show no remorse for the crimes they commit. Thoughts on the death penalty?

oya, do you think it is ever moral to rape someone? this is getting off veganism, id like to debate if morals are truly subjective or not and sorry but yeah when your talking morals you end up talking about immoral stuff, trigger warning I suppose

I just follow a principle if their a resources that can be used ...the resources must be used for the survival of humanity...things like animal abuse falls under stupid people wasting resources ^^

we dont need meat to survive i can link you a study that shows veganism is perfectly healthy, and often times more healthy then people who eat meat can you prove that we do?