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hell_hound7
The covid vaccine infact did not help stop the spread of covid though this is for a fact there was no mismanagement of the pandemic. Trump left it up to the states to run their states. Florida did well during this pandemic and places like new york with even stricter lockdowns still see dozens of cases per capita. Plus idk how much i trust these statistics someone is definitely lying here because look https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/595B/production/_118457822_c3266acc-aaeb-4e6d-a702-084d1944ceb0.png Biden has created more jobs than any president to include obama whom you love so much. He is the most loved president getting more vites than any president ever, he created more jobs, he fixed the economy. Yet we are having food shortages more homeless than ever and a majority of the country hate him shouting fuck joe biden at events. https://youtu.be/ZWOHt6ttflk
momoichi
Mar 24, 22 at 9:57am
yeah that chart isnt accurate. "first three months in presidency." obama inherited a recession that america hadnt seen since the great depression, and it took him two presidencies to fix it. this is a more realistic chart. trump resigned obama era legislation regarding the economy, so i assume youd be for it. obama factually fixed bushes recession. this isnt even debatable. people shouted fuck biden at sport events are the same people who think the election was stolen, i dont care about the opinion of the lowest common denominator lol. what did trump do for homelessness? can you link me an article about food shortages, because i have no knowledge about that. the covid vaccine did in fact help stop the spread, but it went back up again because people got emboldened to not wear masks and social distance. this is another argument though, the main fact is that along with vaccinations people felt safer to go back to work. and your ignoring the fact that biden did literally create jobs via build back better. https://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/170105180818-02-obama-economy-jobs-780x439.jpg
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momoichi
Mar 24, 22 at 11:16am
its your own decision to take a hyperbolic statement and apply it to yourself. do you truly think i think people with preexisting medical conditions are stupid for not taking the vaccine? im pretty sure you know me better, so it would be in bad faith to assume that. people like you are the reason why people who can, need to be vaccinated. thats my problem. trump did nothing. he left states to manage the issue themselves, while biden put out a federal plan. you call for hypocrisy when it comes to the people who criticized warp speed (i am not one of them btw, it was essential and i trust the companies enough to not release a harmful vaccine, which ended up being an accurate assertion) but the majority of anti-vaccers are pro trump, and yet trump is the one that warp speeded the vaccine. the fda has approved the pfizer vaccine and they dont care, theyr dogmatically against it, for reasons that 2019 anti-vaccers were against vaccines. no one is actually confused because new anchor said it might be worrisome to rush it and then later he said nvm its all good. unless your talking about the fox news peeps that have been shitting on the vaccine, then i would agree with your misinformation claims.
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momoichi
Mar 24, 22 at 1:29pm
that statement was peppered with 'fucks' and insults. pretty clear cut it was hyperbolic, and to apply it to yourself was a willful assumption made in bad faith. (also we were very, very close. i had your phone number dude. we talked on the phone and all the time online back in the day. we never butted heads back then because that was back when you were a democrat. when you first came onto the site it was what we bonded over, and together we actually made fun of republicans and argued against them. good days, i must admit) vaccinations and the people that willfully dont get them is a touchy subject for me, which is why iv tried to stray away from engaging in it. i dont believe i can have an argument regarding it without the risk of getting angry. your anecdotes dont mean anything when compared to the actual data and actual research that states "long covid" is a real thing, and lung scarring is a real after effect. guess what? we already enforce vaccinations. in schools. this is not new precedence, and even if it was, novel viruses call for novel implementations. its a fucking jab, whats that compared to a pandemic virus?? its just pragmatic when you consider the fact that this bullshit is turning into an endemic. no, he would not need to do martial law lol. federal mask mandate would atleast be something. ofcourse they need a liability waiver, its only responsible, you think corporations arent gonna cover their ass incase some freak accident happens? that doesnt mean it was some experimental vaccine. do you admonish trump for project warpspeed? also, i reeeaalllyyy dont care about freaks on twitter. again, the opinion of lowest common denominators means little and less, and dont represent even a fraction of an ideology. why arent these freakazoids getting vaccines when theyr proven at this point to be safe?? because they care more about conspiracies and drip-fed misinformation from right wing news anchors WHO ARE VACCINATED than they do actual research.
a1ephy
Mar 24, 22 at 2:00pm
God, you can't format paragraphs on the site anymore
a1ephy
Mar 24, 22 at 2:41pm
On another note. I know I've said this before. But the president has no legal power to control inflation. Basically zero power actually. Neither Trump nor Biden could control inflation. The president does not have a "print money buttong". It doesn't matter if it's a Republican or Democratic president. The president can't unilaterally print money. The institution that somewhat controls inflation is the Federal Reserve. I say somewhat because not even the Fed has full control over inflation. Among other powers. The Fed does control the M2 money supply and the federal funds rate. Which have a direct correlation to inflation. Stating that any president is responsible for inflation is economic illiteracy.
a1ephy
Mar 24, 22 at 2:42pm
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