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hell_hound7
If you want i can do some investigative digging and find this doctor from isreal who made these claims if cnbc isnt good enough for you.
hell_hound7
@verucassault ik you dont like these guys, but just watch this video. Ik in the beginning it sounds like alot of bs, i also agree that men being polygamists and women not doing so is the most backwards thing ever to advocate for. Buuut toward the end he spits facts. https://youtu.be/4Ip197U5gUs Everything after the 2 minute mark i feel is striaght facts
verucassault
This guy is building a career on basically being the voice for the Incel (involuntarily celibate) community by pointing out all the flaws in women and why they are the reasons men aren't dating them. The rants from this guy sounds like a bunch of pent up sexual frustrations that took some hard years to nurture. He's basically taking any easy shot at women that he can trying to convince them of their lack of worth. From a man's perspective he might sound like he is making sense because men naturally are more sexual than women, as in, want sex more often, think of it more frequently (I know there are women out there that can be on the same level, but they are in far fewer numbers). So of course he's going to say men should get to be promiscuous and non-monogomous while the women should not. Now women need to be told hard truths and maybe the ones they have on there, they are trying to take down a peg or two. The one he gave the most attention to could not even eloquently voice her thoughts to defend herself. These two probably go for a type when they have women on their podcast, so... there's that as well. But when he starts spouting the misogynistic toxicity, he loses me. A good way to spot an Incel? A man demanding sex with all the womens while he's struggling to have sex with one.
umi_nezumi
Jul 28, 21 at 5:32pm
The man does speak a lot of reason. I think you can drop the context of male/female and it would still make sense. Women that are 1% with regards to the characteristics he described for men look for the characteristics in men that he described as desirable of women. I think the crux is the point about the "princess" mentality.
umi_nezumi
Jul 28, 21 at 5:58pm
I interpreted his point as monogamy benefiting a woman more so. Historically that was brutally true, but the difference is very slim these days. There's something to be said about how influences have conditioned men to expect certain things from a women as well. I certainly don't believe it's a one-sided dynamic. "Men are scared to speak like this. They can't speak like this." Yup, you get labelled a misogynist real fast. Heck spitting out any kind of generalization will make you unpopular with that group and their associates. It's a natural reaction, but it's a shame because discourse can lead to an improved understanding. Even if generalizations are bad their claims can still have validity to subsections of those groups.
hell_hound7
I think the biggest "aha" moment was when he asked what makes her top 1%. Even she didnt say it with much confidence. Now if you ask most guys what makes them valuable in a relationship and what they bring to the table most can answer off the bat. Whereas women usually cant. Its the whole mentality where they want these high value men, but nothing to offer themselves. If you are an independent woman who doesnt need a man and are searching for a man who also doesnt need you. Why would they need you? Why not go for the women who are more submissive and will do what they want and act according to what they want. A man isnt gonna work hard make all this money and then be told what to do with his money and have every aspect of his life controlled. Its the biggest issue with modern day women in the west. His comment about the middle east really hits. Because i saw this first hand. I spoke to alot of women who dont have the privileges we have here in US and they always humble themselves. Thats why alot of guys are leaving the dating scene in the west.
hell_hound7
I dont believe the guy is coming from a stance of incel. It isnt a toxic male mentality or anything of the sort. Its simple fact. Women these days want to be promiscuous and do what they feel they should be able to do and then turn around and be accepted by men who dont want women like them. Then thats how the more vocal feminists are born. When they get slut shamed for doing exactly what dictates that derogatory term. It is considered misogynistic. The guy isnt trying to pick on women solely because he feels they cant defend themselves. And even if he was why can he defend his views and they cant despite believing 100% they are right. She claims she is a high value woman so why cant she back it up? Ok she said financial, guys really dont care if a woman makes money. Because we are already seeking opportunities to support a family so what does that do for us? Sugar babies typically arent men anyway. Kevin Samuels another dude who is notorious for giving advice such as this guy here, is said to apparently be gay. Is he also an incel? Because that would go against the narrative that they do this because they cant get sex.
verucassault
He can say what he wants, but if he doesn't want to be labeled as a misogynist, maybe he shouldn't say misogynist things? Also, that's a pretty hard generalization. Let's separate that one and look at it. "Women these days want to be promiscuous and do what they feel they should be able to do..." Yes. More women in the job force allows for them to be less reliant on men, giving them more independence from mating/dating/marriage etc. Men do this too. So why look down on a woman for wanting the same? Must be the next bit. "...and then turn around and be accepted by men who don't want women like them." Yeah if men don't want them, then they should ignore those women. < Check out that shit. Problem solved. Regardless of who does what on either side of the fence, think back to this in 20 years, hell 15, when most of these people are pushing 40. See what their relationship or love lives are like. Either they won't settle and be alone in the world, or they will face reality, like many people do, and settle somewhere.
qwertyzbra
Idk know if I stated this already but Banner is making the vaccine mandatory and will be firing anyone who hasn't taken it by November. Now I don't really care much about my job there since I can pay off the rest of my ortho bill on my own, but I am concerned that I won't be able to work because other places might start enforcing this too.
qwertyzbra
Does anybody if there is any place not doing this crap? I already intend to move outta AZ anyway, it's boring and hot asf here.
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