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hell_hound7
Surgery, like replacing an organ. Lets say that is 20k, well i mean you dont have organs just lying around so its gonna cost alot. Where does the money for this come from?
momoichi
Jul 11, 21 at 7:15pm
@dyadka_yar but thats just a headline, isnt that what a normal article would headline with? and doesn't that make trumps rhetoric even more irresponsible because he seemed pretty aware of how scummy media outlets can be, yet he still spoke such a dangerous thing so freely. from what i remember the tariffs were harming American farmers because they then had to pay more to subsidize the difference. china wasn't eating those costs, they were passing them on to the people that bought the products. tariffed items always cost more, so i don't understand how that hurts china, unless its because people buy less of their products. what makes you think these tax cuts will incentives low costs? it sounds like trickle-down economics, which has proven to never be effective. its more feasible to just move those manufacturing jobs to another third world country, like India. americans don't need manufacturing jobs anyways because its becoming more and more automated, so if anything we should be pushing these people instead into engineering jobs to maintain and design the equipment
momoichi
Jul 11, 21 at 7:15pm
@dyadka_yar btw, idk if my shitty grammar makes my paragraphs harder to read, but if it does i can start using better grammar. i just prefer to type like this cause I'm hella lazy.
momoichi
Jul 11, 21 at 7:25pm
@hell_hound7 tax payers. i believe it already costs tax payers more to not have some kind of subsidized healthcare. I'm personally fucked by this because to get my medication refilled i have to see a psychiatrist bi-yearly, and i had to stop going because the only place i could go and have it cost less (because of some university thing) couldn't take me anymore, and i cant afford to pay 600 dollars just to talk to some lady for 5 minutes and tell her 'why yes, i haven't magically been cured,' so iv been shit out of luck and had to stop taking my medication. luckily I'm in a position that i can take some of my moms since we take the same kind, but what about the people that arent so lucky? I'm trying at the moment to get on Medicaid atm, but idk if ill qualify, thanks to how fucked up the cut off for these kinds of things are. "oh your not homeless and have an income? sorry sweaty, you dont qualify uwu" when you cut public funding, your not encouraging people to work, your punishing them for it. because iv become distrusting of leftists, idk if I'm for the universal option or just single payer option.
hell_hound7
@momoichi is that the same cost for telehealth as well? I think thats a big thing thats starting now. You can probably get a telehealth provider to do videocall and talk to you. Idk if its necessarily cheaper buuuuut like you dint have to be limited by state. We have our patients talk to someone out of state for medication sometimes.
momoichi
Jul 11, 21 at 7:30pm
@hell_hound7 no fuckin idea, im doing medicaid because its what my sister is on. if they don't accept me ill look into it, thanks
dyadka_yar
@momoichi Well that is the issue. The tariffs alone wouldn't be enough. It needs to be a one-two punch combo. You have to have a good defense and a good offense at the same time. The main issue with the concept of trickle-down economics is that it did trickle down, the question was where. For example, in the 80s it was Japan where they made our electronics, cars and even construction equipment who took advantage of the economic structure of the US at the time. This made Japanese companies during that period extremely strong. Now it trickles into China, making China even stronger much like what happened to Japan. The main issue as to why it is a wise idea to have a majority of domestic production plants is due to the volatility of international relations. Such as the one right now. Say China has an embargo on the US. We have mere weeks before we are thrown into total chaos due to medications, products and basic chemicals running out. We send these plants to India, same thing could potentially happen. That is the issue that happens with outsourcing. On a smaller scale it causes no problems, when you become reliant on outsourcing then it can be the most dangerous route you can tread.
momoichi
Jul 11, 21 at 8:01pm
@dyadka_yar the tariffs hurt our economy as much if not more than it hurt theirs. from my understanding, trickle down economics didn't work because there was no regulation that made these companies accountable for the tricking down. it was blanket tax benefits with 0 regulations on how companies spent the profits, so they pocketed most of them. because why wouldn't they? and why even bother with this when its much more lucrative to simply move these manufacturing jobs to another country. and even when trickle down economics does work, it isn't that effective. the best economic structure is one where we incentivize new businesses and business growth through government safety nets. this isn't just my opinion, this is the opinion of most economists. like i said before, there's no reason to reopen these manufacturing jobs when its going to become automated anyways. these assembly line jobs are as dead as coal mining jobs.
hell_hound7
@momoichi yeah just look for places that take medicare and have the cheapest price or whatever idk how that stuff works. Im generally pretty healthy, except for whatever is going on with me rn.
nebelstern
@hell_hound7 No country in Latin America will ever go Communist. Commie threat is dead in Latin America, the nearest thing is Left-wing physiologism or idelogogized Lefties (like Pedro Castillo, who backed off with his dream, knowing it just ain't possible). The bigger threat is the rise of authoritarism, coming from populists of the Right and Left alike; our peoples, who are brainlets and even more brainleted politicians (Bolsonaro and Alberto Fernandez come to mind) Well, I say that even though I have no hope for any Latin American country bar Chile.
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