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2020 US Presidential Election

napalmamaterasu
If you think thats scary reread #4 of my above comment. Rewatch VP candidate Harris gleefully declare that she will just outright neuter a right. Who cares about rights though - less facepalms on her twitter account #Priorities Trump is actually trying to get troops OUT of Afghanistan and hasn't been as warhawk at all. Check the UAE and Israel too.
rafaelsanzio
A same type of gov SHOULD NOT BE universal, the type of gov should be created/selected based on the community and culture Democracy was a msitake for example for africa, because they worked in a good sense of tribalism and all the society was made under tat ideology not mentioning the culture
nebelstern
@chocopyro While I agree that a smaller government allows kleptocracies, monopolies and oligarchies to thrive due to State negligence, thus enabling tyranny... A big government is what allows a despot to thrive, due to their enhanced constitutional powers. Elites might also have a hand on governments, too. A tyrant has no regards to law, constitution and order and acts regardless of them, as if they are impervious to its punishment. While a despot wields the structure of law and order to rule how they see as fit. They generally use the holes in the law to secure their rule.
napalmamaterasu
Smaller governments easier to take over and abuse? What? So all of those small limited governments did all of that genocide in history? All of those small government communist utopias? Hitler, Stalin, Mao - small limited governments? In what way are smaller governments more dangerous than larger with respect to dictators and other megalomaniac figures? Am I missing something or did I make a wrong turn in your point of emphasis Chocopyro?
chocopyro
Gah, fuck, why do you guys always get into the fun conversations when my meds are running out! Get here earlier tomorrow, I really wanna debate, but my head is way too frazzled from all the evidence sifting and organization on the baka case. XD
nebelstern
Aww man. Sorry for that...
napalmamaterasu
Im headed to bed too. Its been a long while since I jumped into a fray like this. Might be time to show some newbies how #Freedom works. One day but not today.
chocopyro
No probs. Besides, you guys have no idea how refreshing it is to argue politics with someone who isn't alt right. YOU ACTUALLY USE LOGIC MORE THAN CHEAP MANIPULATION TACTICS! I MISS THAT! Gets me fired up. But... Hard to really pump out the four page paragraphs of data and research when I'm like this.
chocopyro
Anyways, time to defrag for a bit.
gabriel_true
@chocopyro I believe you misunderstood what I said about writting another name on the free space at the bottom of the ballot. -- I never said people should move out of the country either. -- What I said was as American citizens we have the right to vote and that includes voting against the established systems. -- My answer to the back and forth between Democrat and Republican is to choose leaders that are not either. -- Yet for every argument all I ever here is "WE HAVE NO CHOICE." -- See that is what is and has always been our country's problem. We were founded on the idea of thinking for ourselves yet now people just say it is better to be told what to do. -- "I know the leaders are not great, but I will support them anyways because doing the opposite is hard." -- It only gets harder the more people choose not to be proactive in their own country's interests. -- I am voting, but not for Biden or Trump.
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