debate

rebirths were basically a new universe you can not tell me that THE joker, the CURRENT joker, was rehabbed and it wasn't even in arkum asylum, so batman did not help him and answer the question, did suiperman do the right thing by killing zod

sorry you replied righrt when i hit enter its a yes or no question did superman do right by killing zod

Yeah he did again your arguing more about whether its right to kill or not kill not whether batman is bad or good because batman killed Darkseid just like superman killed Zod but those were because they had to otherwise everything goes boom again your arguing over anti heroes being better than heroes batman is a good hero it doesn't mean being a hero is effective or saves the most lives but nonetheless a good hero because of him more people lived if he wasn't there to do the things he did more people would die because he isn't the only hero out there and yet no one kills joker so him not killing joker doesn't make him a bad hero since no other hero has killed joker

no no, my argument is on point because wer not just talking the joker wer talking all the super villains in gotham ivy was not insane, neither was dr.freeze they had issues, but were not gone like joker infact, id say theyr issues are as deep as zods so it was just for superman to kill zod, why is it not just for batman to kill any number of the arguably sane super villains? and yeah it was a fun debate! when your awake id like to continue it :3! sleep well! oyasumi!

also, just to add to my response, i don't believe that batman has saved any lives due to his morals, hes cost them gotham wanted to kill the super villains that batman apprehended, yet batman was against it and built arkham asylum instead, which since its conception has had break out after break out, and has rehabbed, what, two villains? out of its vast bast population? does batmans presence save lives? i would say yes, him foiling plots and apprehending baddies helps, but why how much? if you had a switch that could feed every hungry person in the world but refused to use it, you are causing there starvation batman has the ability to save lives, yet doesn't do it. he has blood on his hands he protects villains at the cost of the lives of the innocent people of gotham

Ivy isn't even evil in the newer versions she just wants her plants to be safe and Victor Freeze was sick since in the original it turned out his "wife" wasn't actually his wife he was just delusional

let me hear your argument on how zod was perfectly mentally sound and didn't have any issues what so ever? his issues would be as deeper than ivys, she was an ecoterrorist, a real cause to fight for that wasn't pure bloodshed zod just wanted to kill how is zod any less mentally ill than ivy or even dr freeze?

i argue that ANYONE that wants to ruthlessly kill is mentally ill zod included yet you agree that superman was just in killing the homicidal zod to save lives why would batman not be just in doing the same

also to my knowledge (watching the cartoon and seeing the movie) dr.freeze canonically didn't see visions of his wife, he just wanted to save her desperately in some iteration maybe he did, but the main dr freeze cannon he just loved his wife a lot (hes a villain i don't think batman should kill ;w;)