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Stay on your side of the wall that should be built ed boy. Also I didn't intend to be so long winded and I have a habit of repeating things or rewording them for (hopefully) clarity. This makes shit even longer -.- I also throw shit in sometimes just to see if they take the bait or can see what my actual point is.

I could debate veganism (vegetarianism) but all I got on that is .... *meat tastes good (very strong case) *humans are omnivores *humans are far from the only animals that eat other animals- if other animals can sense pain or have a modicum of "emotion" is it savage for a lion to eat a gazelle? Creatures consuming other creatures is about as natural as it gets (methodology aside) *I dont imagine that we would have enough food if everyone went vegan (or a substantial portion of people) Im not trying to start Lamby so dont jump on me like I am. Not looking to actually debate since I dont have much in the way of an argument.

is your taste pleasure more important than the death and suffering of millions of animals? do you have any evidence that humans are obligate omnivores? (iv even seen compelling evidence that humans are not omnivores at all, but as iv said im not a nutritionist and i can't take up an argument i dont know enough about) you are not a lion, you go to the grocery store and buy prepackaged, preslaughtered, pre dressed meat. i have more respect for hunters who go out and lawfully kill game and use every part than i do grocery shopping carnists (kek) humans have far removed ourselves from nature to the point that we can not compare ourselves to a big cat in the savanna that has to stalk antelope to survive. i believe thats appeal to nature and it doesnt work the amount of food that we use to feed cattle could cure world hunger. cattle and various other live stock eat substantially more than a human does there for more resources are poured into them. the long and short of it is if we ate what we farmed for the cattle, we would have a surplus of food and thats fine, im pretty busy atm so im not looking for a serious debate atm, ill get back to leo first when i am hope my response is sufficient a rebuttal

*sigh* i guess the truth comes out theres something you carnists dont know about this world, and its that plants are actually sentient the most sentient order to be exact vegan is actually an acronym for vegetation evil group against nazi's thats right the plants are sentient and nazis they want to eradicate all animals (specially the jews for some reason) and once again take up the mantle as the superior order. us vegans have dedicated our lives to eating as many plants as possible to suppress their efforts of global extinction of the animal order but now that you know this, im afraid im gonna have to end you nothing personal, kid

@sail, your statement is too long to read and respond to (as im taking a break from debating while i instead focus on my writing) but i skimmed again, i can not fully argue against the superiority of that diet, just that it has some amazing affects and that you can live very healthily off of it, so diet is not an argument against veganism

i rreeeaalllyy shouldnt be getting into a debate rn but fuck it xD the point of veganism is to cause as little harm and suffering as possible. vegetarians who are vegetarian for ethics are hypocrites (and yes, i can 100% admit i am a hypocrite by my own logic) yes, plants like fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, and grains meat products are fortified with the same vitamins that vegans take and vegan food is also fortified with the same things now, do i know how to implement veganism onto the entire world? i have no idea but thats a good discussion we should be having is veganism possible for every human? no iv already stated that some people cant get the fortified or types of food needed to sustain a healthy diet but there is no perfect diet carnism brings forth heart disease veganism requires a varied diet but if wer talking which diet brings forth more ethical and environmental benefits, veganism stands out might i also add that when i put myself up to debate someone, i specifically said on the grounds of ethics that i would debate on ethics and maybe a bit on nutrition as i have novice information economy isnt something im knowledgeable on so i will not be able to fully debate this please keep that in mind when prompting me for a debate if you really do want to talk economics, i suppose i can brush up on economic impact of veganism as it is important, but as iv said im pretty busy atm and that was why i didnt want to take up a serious debate, because i would have to do research and reading during these debates and that eats up a lot of time