The Immigrate Caravan

@NeoOtaku: You are correct in pointing out one thing. I applied modern ethnocentric standards to thoughts and beliefs of the past. But really, one thing I get tired of from pointing out contradictions with either left or right, is the personal attacks. "People like you", huh? Is this really what constitutes as a civil discussion? Let's keep "Us" out of the conversation. Yes, people like me, those who look in past historical events to draw conclusions to modern problems, tend to use the Irish are an example, because they are perhaps the most well known example. Its what most people can relate to. It is by no means the only example I could use. Shit, I could use my mom as an example. She burns crosses on Islamic people's yards. I think I know bigotry when I see it. (Speaking of which... -__- ) So what makes you so sure that they really are trying to turn us into Rouscgrotenburg? @Daggerfella: Thanks! That was informative as usual. ^__^ And yeah... http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Rubberpenguin/Screen%20Shot%202018-11-07%20at%201.16.33%20PM.png

Oh? Im so sorry. I did not know that saying you are a part of a group was an ATTACK. No, you don't get to hide behind the wall of "lets keep this civil" and "no personal attacks". People like you, people who agree with you like to muddy the water of discussions. I don't care what you call yourself, a centrist, individualist, libertarian. Its all the same. Tell me, how is that bigoted? I want you to explain to me how wanting your enemy to leave is wrong.

@NeoOtaku: Okay, sure. You are being used. You are a pawn in someone's game and you don't realize it. They are using your resentment and fear, your societal frustrations, and your anger as a means to an end. They've given you an enemy. There is nothing inherently wrong with wanting to defend your country. Be careful though. It makes it easy to fall for traps. Traps like xenophobia, which limit you as an individual thinker, and your ability to make decisions for yourself. Which is why we get people who don't know how to separate themselves from their politics, and debate something without loosing their temper... Much like this. Also, here you are thinking decisions should be black or white, claiming that "People like me" just muddy them. The fact of the matter is, the world is a muddy place. As we know from history, the truth resists simplicity. Nothing SHOULD be overly simple, nor should anyone's stance on something be. It's anti-intellectualism at its finest. I'm not trying to condescend to you, by the way. I fall for similar traps from time to time, so I'm in no way, shape or form above you. Now, into the context of my mother, who's bigotry is fueled just as strongly by narcissism as fear, she doesn't distinguish between 3rd generation immigrant (In otherwords, american citizen) and a terrorist. If I have to explain to you why this is wrong. Why deeming our own citizens as "The Enemy" because they're a different color or religion isn't bigotry? Sorry bro. I've given up hope.

@Daggerfella: Oh, I'm not doubting anything that you posted. You're generally very good at finding the accurate information. Just, I kinda think its funny that Reuters, who report to all the major news stations, kinda adds that little tidbit. Seems like the first two articles are written in a way that adds the midterm elections somewhere in there, no matter how brief. Its almost like they are framed in a way where they will be linked in the public consciousness when people think of midterm elections. I'll leave it at that.

Oh my word. Now that is one of the strongest "2smert4U" responses I've ever gotten. The funny thing is that out of the two of us you are the one who is controlled, if we got into that argument though it would cause an error in your programming and your brain would short circuit. ;) Come back when you an actual argument besides "you must be a free thinker........but you must not have bad thought." or "I am intellectual.exe."