The Alt Right

"Why are they in poverty? Because many live on a welfare lifestyle, and even more so, the amount of missing fathers heavily increases crime." So uhh, this is a 'cultural' issue? Let's go back a bit here, could you give me a bit of an explanation on why do you think this majority of blacks on welfare and/or missing fathers came to exist in the first place? I mean yeah there's no 'systematic racism' but you can't just ignore how badly the bogus 'war on drugs' and shady practices of the justice system and privately owned prisons affected not only black communities, but low income areas in general. I personally know so many people who had their lives thrown in the gutter and then shitted on all over a non-violent drug offense. Since you know, having a felony in this country is basically signing an economic death certificate. In most cases felons can't even find a job that provides them with a living wage...Yet, they could make more than enough money to support themselves and their loved ones if they just go back to selling drugs. You can probably imagine that a lot of people went back to jail, causing these broken family units over multiple generations. Fathers go to prison leaving single mothers, single mothers struggle to support multiple children off of their current income, end up on welfare, kids grow up with no father figure. Boys have no men in their lives aside from the WRONG role models and for girls, they have their mother around to teach them how to be a woman but the lack of a father has just as much of an impact. Leading to another generation that basically repeats the same thing. It's almost like some of these areas are just absolute vacuums that raise multiple generations of people already with a disadvantage. Not saying they can't overcome that but yeah. Things don't get this bad overnight The crack epidemic hit black communities the hardest, not only in the use of the drug itself but law enforcement hit the communities hard too. What do you think happened to those people when they served their time? They just got out, found a nice job, was able to turn their lives around, etc? Some people managed to do that sure, but the majority just went back to what they already knew, and the cycle continued basically leading us to the problems we're still dealing with. Black people didn't just choose to have communities like this and our communities certainly didn't just become like this overnight. It's not part of our "culture" either. Now I have a feeling that you're probably going to reference rap music or something as black people embracing or glorifying crime and drugs but I mean originally rap artists...rapped about what they were experiencing or had experienced. It wasn't anything to be proud of, it was just a way of expressing their story and the story of a lot of other people at the same time. That's why it became popular with black communities in the first place, because it was something genuine and relatable to people of all ages that wasn't simply just songs about falling in love or having the blues. Now the rappers of the last decade or so are different though But yeah, I don't think the answer is as simple as "black people just need to fix their culture" either.

I'm not going to deny the war on drugs was terrible for the black community, but that was decades ago. Sure I don't think drugs should be illegal(At least to adults.), since I don't care what an adult does with their body, However, The issue is, Even now, They are choosing Crime over legitimate jobs, In higher numbers anyways. That's a fact. Rap does glorify gang life style, but that's not the biggest issue. The biggest issue is instead of ending an already terrible cycle, the culture is to continue it. In the end, it doesn't matter how we got to this culture, It didn't matter how the Nazi's got their horrendous cultural views, Even though they had some right to be angry, if you look at the history of Germany at the time. The point is, The culture, is fucked. They can go to school and get proper jobs, but they do not(Hell many jobs MUST have minorities in it, with affirmative action, which tbh is bullshit, No one should be hired due to race. But the point stands.), That's due to the cycle like culture they have. Kids get into crime due to lack of fathers, In turn, making their kids have the same issue, repeat. fatherless home are shown to have around a 70%(Or was it 80?) increase to crime. The only way to fix this is for them to overcome that culture and make something new. Only they can do it. And plenty are. But there's no such thing as systemic racism in this country, and blaming others for their problems isn't going to fix anything. You do the crime you do the time, Doesn't matter if you white, or black, or anything. Doesn't matter if the culture surrounding you, or the past may make it seem more appealing. The point is, You can overcome it, and you should. I'd say that about any race in the situation. The country isn't racist however. If that were the case, Asians and Jewish people wouldn't be doing so well, So much better than the white majority.

Did you even read my entire post? I never said "this can't be overcome" or implied that systematic racism exists. I was just stating that the issue isn't that simple, along with my reasoning. I'm not trying to make any excuses or anything. I just personally think it's very important to look at the context and the bigger picture surrounding a toxic culture. Do you really think anyone would heed anything you have to say if you simply tell them what their people "need to do"? The first answer you'd get would probably be "what the fuck do you know about my people?" and bam. You've effectively destroyed your own goodwill. You don't need to coddle people but you also can't just bark out what's wrong with their communities.

Yeah I did sorry, I've just had this conversation so much, that it automatically goes to one state for a bit. But the issue is rather simple, Due to older affects of racism, black people have had cultivated a cultural cycle that includes welfare, crime ect. And it's unfortunate, now that the racism doesn't exist, that others are trying to say that it isn't their fault for not doing what they need to, to get out of it. Because saying it isn't their fault only makes them demand things like reparations or affirmative action, which is racist in of itself. In the end we need a few things, 1. This race war culture needs to end. 2. Let's be honest we probably don't NEED this, but it'd help, by making most drugs legal to adults. 3. The end of the fatherless homes as I said before. You're right it is a bit more complex than I stated, but it's not a "Complex" issue. It's simple, It's just simple things on a broad form such as a culture, and lifestyle is a slow progress to fix. And if they can't see there's an issue, on a unbias light, then that's a problem of their own. Same things with the divorces, or the rise in violence, in general, If we don't look at these things bluntly, we won't be able to fix them.

I don't believe the Alt Right is an organic movement. Once you start checking out the backgrounds of "Alt Right Leaders" many things become suspect. My personal thought on the matter is that the establishment needed a label in order to target an unaffiliated rightwing group, because you remember what happened when Hillary called half the country deplorable right? Answer me this... How is a mostly Jewish leadership, "white nationalist"? As for the idea of white nationalism; I support the idea that we should protect our western culture from falling apart due to decadence but anyone who thinks it's even possible to "get rid" of all minorities hasn't stopped to think the damage the severe loss of manpower can do to our country. Regardless of our feelings on the matter, the United States will remain a mixed race nation. I myself am a white nationalist, though I don't wish harm on any other race. Rather, I support every race's right to their pride and heritage. Our races developed in different parts of the world and gained their own genetic traits. No one is "better," we're all just better at different things. I grew up learning that we're all different, but we should celebrate our differences. Turning the entire world into a mirror of the western world isn't good for anyone. It will give us a severe lack of culture, people (as they already are) will begin to feel even more displaced than ever before.

I think the alt right is too large of a spectrum of many different ideologies. As someone in the progressive camp, I know what it's like to be outside of the establishment definition of what the left is, and all the negative media attention associated with that, so I'm not inclined to believe that every one of them is a neonazi. Those who are, though... http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Rubberpenguin/Dioisatiervillainpeopleonlylikehim_d4738b6a68758027ed2802821aa1ab4d.jpg

i say everyone has a right to there own opinion and if you attack them because you dont like there opinion then what the heck are you doing with your life