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secretagentboi
Oh also the new 52 superman is not altruistic bro literally used similar tactics as Batman like dangling a corrupt politician over an edge of a building before jumping off with him and when he met with earth 2 superman which i believe is golden age superman the earth 2 Batman and Superman stated that the new 52 superman is more full of anger than the original making his beliefs not as altruistic as they used to be
secretagentboi
Aight nerd out i gotta clock back in
momoichi
Aug 07, 22 at 2:32pm
@secretagentboi i dont read the comics, just seen the cartoons and read a few harley quinn comics. i have a huge throbbing hate boner for batman, but that doesnt influence how i see gotham, because i like everything about the batman universe outside of batman himself. there is an issue of comic era, BUT i believe it is fair to say that canonically gotham is depicted as more crime ridden than metropolis. metrpolois has supervillains, yes, but they scale to superman himself. batmans villains are weaker, but larger in number as well, filling gotham like a rat infestation. its tourist nyc vs the slums of nyc
momoichi
Aug 07, 22 at 2:35pm
@secretagentboi i dislike batman because he put his "morals" ahead of the good of gotham. all he has to do is kill joker, thats all. snap his neck. but no, he cant kill, and so others die because hes such an uwu moral icon uwu so sweet that he'll put the villains well being above the innocents of gotham (again, iterations on this vary, he even use to use guns, but the core of his character is this 'i wont kill no matter what' bullshit)
a1ephy
Aug 07, 22 at 2:50pm
@secretagentboi Well, that sucks. That’s a good clarification. You’re correct. It really depends where you live and what laws are applicable to you.
secretagentboi
@momoichi you're right about Gotham having more villains but them being weaker the first villains Batman faces in the new 52 is the red hood gang and riddler while Superman's first villains were Brainiac and Lex Luthor who unleashed an alien plaque that turned the citizens of metropolis into zombies, and while you're dislike of Batman is understandable it isn't a moral code usually animated stuff and movies make it seem like a moral code but it's been shown and said that if Batman kills he won't stop also idk if it'll happen in the prime universe but usually after he kills the world ends cause it's "a universe that shouldn't exist" even if you don't like Batman you should read some of the "evil" versions of Batman since some of them aren't really evil and are just killing criminals oh another reason i would rather live in Gotham is cause 6/7 times that Batman turns evil he still protects the innocent only killing criminals while 3/3 times that superman turns evil he becomes a fascist who will kill you for stealing bread in order to survive plus the catalyst for then turning evil is pretty interesting for Batman it ends up being the lack of self control that makes him kill his villains while Superman's catalyst is a lack of Louis either because she was killed or he never met her
secretagentboi
@a1ephy yeah I had to double check cause you gave me hope before it was gruesomely ripped out of me by the state laws
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momoichi
Aug 07, 22 at 5:52pm
@secretagentboi eehhh idk if ill ever read a dc comic that isnt about harley, i feel like they have an overly serious air to them. i prefer mc's deadpool and spider gween, that mix of comedy and action. yeah but superman got to have a zod moment. batman will never have that, he'll lecture traumatized people not to punish their traumatizers. you ever seen this dorkly vid with him? it sums up why he sucks so hard so well https://youtu.be/Y6Oe9iijjbw sure, and joker unleashed joker gas, which made people die laughing (a horrific way). raped and tortured gordons daughter. tried to blow up a hospital and other buildings. succeeded in blowing up a school. ivy's bioterrorism, mr.freeze freezing people alive (though he did nothing wrong in my eyes hes a sweetheart i wont stand for johnny snow slander) if this doesnt kill you, the economic disparages will wring you dry along with the thugs that pick your pocket and/or stab you and the mafia that will get you caught up in drive by shootings and extort your businesses. if you live in gotham you arent just terrorized by super villains and thugs, your also poor in the meantime. yo, when was superman a facist xD? hes a sweet alien dude that might have turned into that bad dude from the boys if not for his loving bumpkin parents. batman is the dude thats snapping thugs backs, leaving them a paraplegic for life, unable to tie their own shoes, and sit in his mansion thinking he did a good thing by not killing them.
kuharido
Aug 07, 22 at 6:00pm
@momoichi Batman did kill Joker in the Killing Joke which is where Joker tortured Batgirl. He even snaps his neck. The major issue is if they kill the villains for good the comics would end XD but some stories don't tie into each other like the Killing Joke was it's own thing. Also, yes DC is darker and pioneered more mature themes for comic readers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3DWn2OPwvM
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