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oniiai
I play eroges and I watch hentai but I don't think there's been a day in my life where I've said ''lol anime girls alllll dayyy.'' I just like anime tiddays tbh. I just got an oppai mouse pad today.
neet_one
Feb 05, 15 at 5:39pm
well put vampire_neko, you don't have to like what other people like, but being judgmental and insulting about isn't cool.
jikokun
@Tiger I don't know you and don't give a shit about your opinion of me, even if I did. @Saya comparing porn and hentai is the easiest way to show the contrasts between the two. The debate can go anyway you choose comparing them, but no matter how you slice it, having feelings towards a drawing over flesh and blood is classified as a disorder. I can't thing of the name at the moment, and being at work I don't really have time to look (on break atm) but I will afterwards. @neko I'm not putting -people- down, I'm stating the action itself is disturbing (See page 6). Yes, I find people who like drawings over people weird, but call me old fashioned. To each their own But it's still disturbing.
its_saya
Feb 05, 15 at 5:40pm
No neet, you need to be insulting because it makes you feel better about your insecurities!
oniiai
Why not say that sexualizing/romanticizing anime girls isn't your cup of tea? @Jikoshy You're making it seem like your being hostile.
neet_one
Feb 05, 15 at 5:48pm
Jikoshy, people would say the same thing about a 29 man who enjoys a cartoon made for little girls about ponies. Also, You've called it disgusting, disturbing, unhealthy, and weird... yet you're not putting anyone down?
its_saya
Feb 05, 15 at 5:52pm
@Jikoshy It's really not easier though, if you argued emotional attachment it would be a way better point to argue from because there are a range of emotions other than sexual desire that can factor into play, you could argue human interaction if it was someone they knew in person, you could talk about how feelings grow between multiple people and how said people affect each other and slightly change how the other acts and thinks due to growing closer and seeing the viewpoint of the others. You could argue the point of physical contact and pheromones affecting both partners during intercourse. I could go on but you get the point. Instead you decided to pick something that didn't give you much room to work with. In your scenario both person A (the one masturbating to porn of real people) and person B (the one masturbating to cartoons) are doing almost exactly the same thing, both sitting at a desk or in bed looking at a screen, the only difference is visual. Your only argument is what society deems acceptable or unacceptable, porn as a whole was looked down upon until fairly recently. It's the same with interracial relationships and even more recently homosexual relationships. Going back 30 years you could argue that homosexual relationships aren't healthy because "no matter how you slice it having feelings towards your gender rather than the opposite gender is classified as a disorder". Your only argument here is semantics and what is deemed acceptable in society, and that's why I don't respect your view on this matter.
jikokun
@Saya You don't have to respect me or my opinions, it doesn't bother me either way. You are correct, I will admit, that I -could- have gone about it in another way, and while going the porn route might have been the easiest, it possibly wasn't the best way. For that, my apologies. @Neet Nope, I'm not putting the person down, only the action. Somebody wants to get their panties in a bunch because of it, that's their problem, not mine. The act of loving a picture is disturbing and unhealthy. Personally, I find it rather disgusting... and socially, it's extremely weird. I agree, a person my age liking a cartoon based on ponies (saying it's for girls is gender discrimination, mind you.) Is a bit weird, but hey, I'm fine with it being weird. If you enjoy this lifestyle, you're entitled to it. People won't agree with you, obviously, but the difference between you and me is that I don't care what you or others think about it.
its_saya
Feb 05, 15 at 6:16pm
@Jikoshy That's fine with me, it makes me happy to hear you say that. For the most part I just want to see people growing as individuals, regardless of how they feel about things. People may not agree with me when I say this, but I think people should try to learn a little bit every day. I strongly feel that as a society we need to all get better at communication and conveying our feelings in productive ways, as it helps foster growth and advancement. To clarify, it's not that I don't respect you, just the way you were trying to convey your feelings, as in my eyes lacking arguments create more problems than they solve. I don't exactly agree or disagree with your view, just the way you were trying to present it. Edit: Minor grammatical fix.
vampire_neko
I wish people in general felt more comfortable with expressing themselves and their desires (whether sexual or otherwise). I think open communication and expression helps us to understand each other better and ourselves. I see so many people suffer over self loathing because of how others have treated them or how they think others will treat them because of their personal views or desires. I like to think that this is a place where we can have pretty open communication and feel free to express ourselves without fear of social persecution. I think that feeling free to express ourselves can help everyone overcome their neurosis and insecurities by knowing they aren't alone and that people are willing to accept and love them for who they really are and that they can find someone to love and cherish them if they want.
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