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Would you rather be equal in pain or unequal in paradise?

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In my opinion, a society cannot be both equal and free. Your thoughts?

Nov 06, 17 at 3:56pm

I think generally speaking, you're right. Even if we got rid of the issue of resources (via a Star Trek-like replication system or something) there will still be an urge in some people to rebel against a system imposed on them without their consent, which will lead to conflict.

I generally lean more toward an "equal" society, but with enough caveats to allow for individuality and dissenting voices. Japan is a very rigid, "equal" society; but there is also a lot of societal pressure that makes people feel completely outcast just for disagreeing with commonly held "norms."

I've often maintained that a fictional country that sits somewhere in between the American extreme of too many freedoms, and the Japanese extreme of too many constraints, is where I want to live.

Nov 06, 17 at 4:38pm

need better context

if its paradise doesnt this assume im happy while unfree?

if so then sure, ill take paradise

Nov 06, 17 at 4:41pm
Tiger Festival

You need to go into further detail.

Nov 06, 17 at 5:05pm

Whilst i hate this society that forces individuality down my troat (not freedom), i'm still a rebellious person who needs to have some freedoms to do things her own way. So i don't think i could choose either.

Since i think both options of your question are impossible, i go for none. 'equal chances, free choices' is how i'd defenite an ideal life. Which we all know is an utopia. More theoretical freedom doesnt always equal more practical freedom and vice-versa.

Unequality is natural and striving for equality is natural. And when equality has been achieved, people will strive for unequality. and that cycle repeats itself forever. It's the phylosophical idea called "Permanent revolution". Society is always in motion.

Nov 06, 17 at 11:09pm

Unequal and free. 'Tis better to live like a lion for day than 100 years as a sheep.

Nov 07, 17 at 2:29am

Unequal in Paradise.

Nov 09, 17 at 3:03am

I don't think that would be paradise.

Nov 10, 17 at 11:29am

I am having a hard time understanding the meaning of the topic and some context would be really helpful. The only thing I can think of when you say unequal in paradise would be something like the world of Psycho-Pass in which a persons individuality and freedom is lost and society dictates who you are and what job you can do but on the flip-side the society is relatively peaceful. If it is something like that then hell no I do not want it at all. I can't comment on unequal and in pain though because I can't think of a possible example to draw from.

Nov 11, 17 at 3:07am
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