Why are "fat girls" like me so unattractive??

@tornadomushroom Sorry, I'm going to have to dissect some of your statements. Amezuki is right to state that "usually" is more accurate than always. Having personal experience and knowing some other people with experience losing weight doesn't mean everyone can do the same thing. There are also some genetic diseases, as opposed to "dispositions," that make the feat impossible. In addition, while some scientists may say "Genes are not and cannot be a reason for obesity," you aren't speaking for all scientists. And most especially you should not pull numbers out of thin air. @hannahelizabeth13 Weight is often more of a social problem for many people than simply a concrete-physical problem. By this, I mean that however the person may otherwise appear, the perceptions of overweight people are very much inflicted with prejudice. I think that it's most important to stay confident. While there are many people who dismiss others based on their weight, there are some people who will not.

There's a difference in "Genetics" and "Genetic Diseases". If you knew anything about Genes and what they control in terms of body mass, you wouldn't be sounding like a troll right now. "And most especially you should not pull numbers out of thin air." You seem angry, take a chill pill. And you're right, I did pull those numbers out of thin air by saying 1%-7% because it's actually 1%-5%. The issue at hand for most people who hardly see any difference is because weight just doesn't disappear immediately. It slowly goes away and most people in a 1-2 week span will weigh themselves, see no progress, and stop. That's not just it, weight loss is also based on your mentality state. If you're depressed for example, your body is not going to lose any weight. @DrMario, people who say " I don't have control over my weight " are lazy. If they've got some type of Genetic Disease, sure, they have the benefit of the doubt. But do you even know how many people are born with a Genetic Disease that yields Obesity? Yeah, it's possible but as i said, if Genes only control 1-5 percent of your body mass index, where does the other 95-99 percent come from? So chyeah, i don't speak for all scientists but the facts are there and it makes sense. If you want to try to dissect my statements more, feel free to but at least do research before you try, or else i'd probably just ignore you lol.

You and I seem to clash. I'm not angry. I am a bit taken back by your reactions to everything I say though. I'll try to be more gentle in my wording with you...though I can safely admit that replying to you is very frustrating. I do really suggest that you leave out the numbers...it's not fair to anyone to say that you know in absolute percentages how much the genome affects body mass. For the average person ~60% of mass is made up from water. In obese persons, this percentage is lower because fat/lipid is less associated with water. The body is fairly adept at maintaining a constant amount of water as part of homeostasis. Also, in women this percentage is lower because females tend to have a higher percentage of body fat (something that is obviously genetic in nature). An obese person can have upwards toward 25% body fat, and fat accounts for most of the variation in the weight of people when accounting for height and sex. However, most of the body mass originates from the genome. That is undeniable, unless of course you don't believe that DNA is the blueprint for the body.

Lol, we clash because you always seem to chime in like a hero by always trying to "Dissect" my posts and you do it without any facts. It doesn't matter what's fair or not lol, you said i came up with #s out from thin air, and yet, I was still right because as I stated, what i was majoring in College for 2 years? Revolved mostly around Health Science. In case you haven't noticed, I don't sugarcoat anything. I'm going to tell the person straight up what they should know. Which might be why you reply the way you do because you may think that i'm being too harsh, who knows? *yawns*, most of the body mass originates from the Genome, but the gene itself only controls up to 5% of the of the body mass index itself, so while it lays it out like a "blueprint" which we see eye to eye on, its essentially a "Blueprint" because genes in general only control up to 5% of the body mass index. Think of a standard model "fetus" if you will (Unless there's a disease or abnormal gene), until it starts to be introduced to consumables. And that is when WEIGHT is gained. So really, you're just proving my point, as you usually do lol. In the end, it's the person who controls their weight unless it's some disorder or genetic disease. Just it's the person who controls if they want to lose weight or not.

TM, you clash--and he's not the only one with whom you do so--because you have an abrasive, arrogant way of telling people what you *think* they should know, and you're not right nearly as often as you seem to think you are. You make sweeping generalizations (e.g. "losing weight is always something a person can do") and when people call you on them, you make nitpicky arguments about why you're right and they're wrong--arguments which, ironically, tend to support the more nuanced view of the person you're arguing with rather than the absolute statements that you seem to favor. It's not really a very appealing personality trait. I've watched this pattern repeat itself across different threads with different people, and that's in a relatively short amount of time. You might want to spend some time reflecting on that.

@Tornadomushroom You are saying that you're right because you majored in health for 2 years? Really? Dude, if you're going to try to say you know more than me, you should do better than that. And yes, unless you're medical literature, I will maintain that you made up those numbers. If you're saying that genes control 1-5% of the deviation in body mass, that's different than saying they control 1-5% of the total body mass but still not correct. There's a reason some people can eat like machines, sit around doing nothing and not gain weight while others gain weight easily. And on another note, infant weight gain is very different than childhood, adolescent, and adult weight gain. The consumables you're talking about are digested into the same materials that the fetus is exposed to in the womb. The growth patterns are tied very much into both genes and nature. Obviously if the baby is malnourished, it won't gain weight. But the way the baby oxidizes fuels is largely a genetic component. There is too much variation to exclude the effect of genes to the extent that you are.

I partially agree with tornadomushroom and then partially agree with drmario. The issue with medical conditions that lead to weight gain and trying to lose weight with them isn't as easy as tornado makes it sound, yet it isn't impossible and it is in the person's ability to change. With an incredible amount of effort and a real need for knowledge of your own body that isn't exactly easily explained in layman terms. Conditions like hypothyroidism , Cushing's, or people who are insulin resistant for example. You have to know exactly what you can and cannot eat to lose weight which requires an exact knowledge of where your body is not breaking things down properly. Also some medications are known cause weight gain. But long story short, it's possible for anyone to lose weight. The only thing different is how much weight lost depends on your own body. With that knowledge, you can then adequately put into effect a plan to lose weight and be successful.

Also, as a side note, body image is so subjective to where you are. It seems like in the world today people strive to be the opposite of those around them. In some african countries where food is scarce, there's an obesity epidemic where women purposefully overeat and gavage so that they are attractive to men. Unfortunately, in most western societies, since this whole country overeats, we incline towards the opposite end of that spectrum with embracing thin as beauty. But you know, different strokes, different folks and what not. There's a lot of people out there who will find you incredibly attractive

I have to say weight loss is possible everyone how easy or diffficult it is is a different story because there are conditions that can make it more difficult but at the end of the day the more excuses you make for yourself the less likely you are to do anything to change yourself. I am a firm believer in will power.

Hmmm... I'm a full figure woman and I can relate to the question. I believe in the theory that because society says thinner in better most males have learnt the they should be atracted to the skinnier female. In the old days is was actually the oposit. 1800s I think... a larger woman showed she had good health and would give healthier children. As society changes so does their ideas. Personally (I am straight) I think a more padded figure is atractive on e female then the more boney and straight figure that models have. They have no true form/figure. Its sad guys don't apreciate us bigger girls more.