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hell_hound7
The right doesnt care about legal immigration. The migrant caravans are what they are complaining about. The same thing people said doesnt exist? Well with biden as president it sure doesnt look like a myth.
momoichi
Jul 17, 22 at 9:36pm
the only difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant is the law. and laws can be changed.
hell_hound7
So you want to basically open our border up to the entire world. Places that have crime, poverty, corruption, violence, rape, robberies and all that shit even worse than us, to just waltz in unnanounced with no way of us knowing they exist. Because thats what illegal immigration is. If you just make it so everyone who comes in the us is tracked and has a background check to keep undesirable criminals out. Then thats legal immigration.
momoichi
Jul 17, 22 at 9:49pm
your a little young, so you probably dont remember the 'theyr taking our jobs!" mantra of the republican part circa early mid 2000s. heres a direct quote from trump on making immigration easier "You better be smart. They’re taking your jobs. You better be careful." link for context https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2014/03/06/trump-warns-gop-on-immigration-theyre-taking-your-jobs/ so yeah they are scared about immigrants takin der jerbs
momoichi
Jul 17, 22 at 9:50pm
theres also the great replacement theory thats strong among conservatives
hell_hound7
No i exactly remember that and its true, they were taking jobs and were being taking advantage of as a result. See unlike alot of lefties i knew illegal immigrants from Honduras. They immigrated here on a work visa which expired and they never left. When the husband got injured on the job he had to continue working and he also got paid the bare minimum in the state of texas. This was back in 2012 for me, just imagine how many other illegal immigrants this happens to. They will take just about anythign from shady employers who wanna underpay workers and get away with it. You cant tell me this doesnt happen because so many corporations send their factories to china for the same reason.
hell_hound7
Also white people are at skme point going to become the minority in America and this has been backed by a study. I cant be bothered to find the study. But yeah the diversity in America is growing.
momoichi
Jul 17, 22 at 9:56pm
nope. immigrants help the economy by working jobs and allowing businesses to expand. here "Immigrants are a critical part of the U.S. workforce and contribute to productivity growth and technological advancement. They make up 15% of all workers and even larger shares of certain occupations such as construction, food services and health care. Approximately 40% of Ph.D. scientists working in the United States were born abroad. (Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics; American Community Survey) Many immigrants are entrepreneurs. The Kauffman Foundation’s index of entrepreneurial activity is nearly 40% higher for immigrants than for natives. (Source: Kauffman Foundation) Immigrants and their children assimilate into U.S. culture. For example, although 72% of first-generation Latino immigrants use Spanish as their predominant language, only 7% of the second generation are Spanish-dominant. (Source: Pew Hispanic Center/Kaiser Family Foundation) Immigrants have lower crime rates than natives. Among men aged 18 to 40, immigrants are much less likely to be incarcerated than natives. (Source: Butcher and Piehl) Immigrants slightly improve the solvency of pay-as-you-go entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare. The 2007 OASDI Trustees Report indicates that an additional 100,000 net immigrants per year would increase the long-range actuarial balance by about 0.07% of taxable payroll. (Source: Social Security Administration) The long-run impact of immigration on public budgets is likely to be positive. Projections of future taxes and government spending are subject to uncertainty, but a careful study published by the National Research Council estimated that immigrants and their descendants would contribute about $80,000 more in taxes (in 1996 dollars) than they would receive in public services." (Source: Smith and Edmonston) https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/cea/cea_immigration_062007.html
hell_hound7
Is this IMMIGRANTS or "immigrants" are we talking legal or illegal. I have no issue with immigrants, i believe they have a place in the Us and yes while its true they will take anything they can get and be appreciative as they would have had it worse in their own country. But thats not what im talking about. Im talking illegal immigrants and yes they are a problem. No one cares about regular immigration besides racists.
hell_hound7
Also if its immigrants they know exist chances are they are legal. The ones you wont know about are illegal and thats why any info on illegals are bullshit because they wouldnt be here if thats the case. They would be deported. But you wont hear about them because if they fuck up they are gone so yeah they are less likely to be arrested.
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