debate

people in farms do not get turned on or dont get a dopamine rush every time they process meat in theere...if that is the case the workers should get help

think you are trying to tie up animal abuse for personal pleasure with farms not having enough money to buy anesthetics for each and every animal they opperate on ^^... these 2 are completely 2 different matters and hope you understand this

so your morals come from your lived experience? that's interesting but I personally cant wrap my head around it. It's quite vague i suppose. but I'm asking if its ever moral to rape someone? @koro people in those conditions actually get ptsd because the conditions are so horrible. they then take out that stress on the animals. if the conditions are so bad it causes slaughterhouse workers ptsd then how do you think the animals feel? "think you are trying to tie up animal abuse for personal pleasure with farms not having enough money to buy anesthetics for each and every animal they opperate on ^^..." how so? im not accosting the slaughterhouse worker im accosting you for giving money to this industry for your own dopamine rush, aka a bite of a burger I actually have nothing against slaughter house workers, its usually the best work pay wise and they end up traumatized from it a lot of the time. i feel for them as I feel for the animals to be frank

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more like morally consistant i just want to talk logic. you are very different from that slaughterhouse worker. your removed from the situation. you get no monetary value from eating meat, you just pay the industry and get your own pleasure from the torture that happened.

I wish I could say no but the idea exists therefore yes it is moral. There is a morality behind the concept of rape.

sure, can you tell me what scenario is rape moral? i actually have a scenario that you may agree with if your curious

Put a gun to someone I loves head and tell me to rape someone and either I do it and they live or I don't and they die There morality behind this being "do you want to save someone if it means causing harm to others? "

okay about this ptsd problem you keep bringing up some people are not just suited to work where there is alot of blood and guts...that is just a personal problem and you can't generalise this to all the farm workers ....this is just a minority in the pool of farm workers so they should either use machines to do the slaughter or get a new job... Pretty similar to how not all doctors who gduate from a university become a surgeon...some just cant handle the blood and guts they have to see during operations so they switch to other carreers ^^