2020 US Presidential Election

cero against the civil rights riots in the 60s confirmed

'During the height of the riots' literally you

@momoichi "the kkk are the founding fathers of white supremacist in america" ---> Yes "the kkk worked a lot on Christianity, hence the burning cross" ---> Also yes "why do most white supremacists attack jews if its not because theyr working off Christian biases...." ---> And again yes You built a straw man that I am not actually arguing against. I did state that Christians commit more terrorist acts in the US. You actually did not counter anything that I said. Read carefully what I stated. You just gave off a bunch of unconnected thoughts about the KKK and white supremacy. It was not an actual rebuttal to anything that I said. You stated that when you "say Christian [you're] adding white supremist terrorist attacks". Followed by you stating that "most Muslim terrorists in the us are indoctrinated white bois". What is the implication when you state "white bois"? The implication of "white boi" is white supremacy. In other words. If a white Muslim commits a terrorist attack, then it is white supremacy. Which is not true. Just because a Muslim extremists is white. Doesn't mean his a white supremacists. Muslim extremist extract their nonsensical religious philosophy from a book full of fallacious religious doctrine. Muslim extremists are not white supremacist. As white supremacist extract their philosophy on some idiotic perceived superiority between them and other races. I think you are getting lost in the woods. @songofsisyphus My point is a lot more nuanced then simple calling them all extremist right wingers. Which they technically all are. My point is the fundamental difference between these groups. They are all extremists right wing nutjobs. But their underlying philosophy is extremely different. Because of their different ideologies and different effects on different countries. All these groups should be addressed differently.

"You just gave off a bunch of unconnected thoughts about the KKK and white supremacy." can you explain how they were nonconnected? i bring up how the kkk ius the forefather of white supremacy in America and how the majority of white supremists are Christian that literally was my point, that Christians by proxy of this fact commit more terrorist attacks than Muslims can you point to where i said islamic indoctrinated terrorists were apart of the white supremacist terror attack statistic? because it seems like your the one attacking a strawman? because it looks like you misread what i actually said "when i say christian im adding white supremist terrorist attacks, which are the majority in america and I'm pretty sure most muslim terrorists in the us are indoctrinated white bois, so' i had no data to back that up, that was just my assumption because the ones i hear about tend to be white males that were indoctrinated from the internet. that was never the crux of my argument, i just threw that out there because it absolutely does happen, and the issue is when people talk about Islam they always think middle eastern, but it isn't even always middle eastern people so that assertion is even wronger hope that clarifies things, but your earlier point that 'Christian doesn't = white supremacist' just isn't true. statistically, it is just not true, and i point to my above points as to why

you can be christian and not white supremacists but the vast majority are which makes it the leading violent religion in America and some other countries and if you even agree to this like your saying, where is the argument your trying to make

your original statement was simply a contrarian statement for the sake of disagreeing "It is true that Christians commit more terrorist acts in the US. But that is partly a function that there's alot more Christians in the US than Muslims. Muslims make up a very small minority in the US. Are Christians more probable to commit terrorist acts? Probabilities based of the size of the population vs acts comitted yada, yada, yada. Possibly, but to know with a higher degree of certainty. Bayesian logic would probably best solve that problem. But I don't want to get into that. Mostly too lazy to actually figure it out. Nevertheless on a global scale. Places like Europe, Asia, Middle East etc. Most terrorist acts are committed by Muslim extremist. It really depends on the country." i only ever spoke on America but you brought up a global scale, which is something i never brought up then you pivoted to the fact that you misread my response and ran with it, attacking a literal strawman after it i was half asleep last night, it was 4am, so i didn't connect the dots earlier. but yeah, in the end I'm still right with everything i stated

aleph, id like to have a real debate with you about something how do you feel about trans people using the bathrooms they identify with?

Some might say "violence is never the answer". Stating that "violence is the never the answer" is a platitude from fairy tale lala land. When all other avenues in dialogue are dealt with. Sometimes violence against the government is justifiable. Violence against the government? I must be crazy! Mind you that one of the main causes for the American Revolution was taxes. Taxation without representation. Yes, it was something as simple as taxes. Where in protest to the tea act of 1773, demonstrators disguised as Native Americans destroyed an entire shipment of tea. The event was called the Boston Tea Party. The destruction of tea was an ignition to a full blown war. A war where thousands died. The Boston Tea Party was directed violence at the government. For the destruction of government property. The members of the Boston Tea Party were called patriots. Patriots for standing up for their rights. Unlike the American Revolution, which was mainly caused by taxes. The BLM movement was ignited by the murder of a black man by police officers. Just like the Boston Tea Party. The BLM destroyed government property. Which was directed violence at the government. BLM stood up for their rights. But they were not called Patriots for standing up for their rights. No, they were called terrorist. It is double standard. When all methods are exhausted. Force and violence is justified against the government. But mind you that violence is not justified against the innocent business that were also burnt down. The businesses had nothing to do in the death of George Floyd. Burning down the mom and pop donut shop is a wholly unjustifiable. But justified violence against the government is. Just as the Boston Tea Party did centuries ago. When rights are trampled on and avenues of dialogue are dealt with. It is a wholly American principle to initiate force against the government. @cero