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Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
veganism is growing, and with these new mock meats, it is not far fetched to assume it will be mainstream someday

Lamby @momoichi
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Lamby @momoichi
its healthier, more ethical and better for the environment
whats the downside >w>?

OrangeMilk @orangemilk
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OrangeMilk @orangemilk
Meat eaters are just oblivious to the fact that they are complicit in that their food choices harm animals. Completely detached from that, they don't see haw the sausage is made.

Ghost @kuharido
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Ghost @kuharido
There is a lot of information about plants having feelings. In terms of sentience that's a hard thing to impose. What makes us sentient is questioning our own existence. No animal does that, only humans do. You're just throwing out plants having feelings just because they operate in a different way. What would happen if you had definite proof they felt? Would you feel bad?
Personally if I don't eat meat, particularly red meat my energy drops. Even if I have nuts and/or beans. It's been noted that iron is better absorbed from red meat so I figure it's that. Also, if I don't eat meat and bread I never feel quite full and will keep eating. These are personal things about my body. Everyone has little differences like that. I got an aunt with anemia who barely eats meat and the doctor keeps pushing her to eat some steak cause it would help her iron levels. She doesn't seem to get it as well from plant based iron. I'm not sure why it's the case. Maybe it's our ethnic backround but who knows. That is something unique for an individual.

OrangeMilk @orangemilk
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OrangeMilk @orangemilk
Do plants have a nervous system though? Can we actually see them in pain? Cause we definetly can for animals.

davidm @davidm
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davidm @davidm
Nah, I had to read "A Modest Proposal" one too many times in high school to find cannibalism orgasmic... it's just a plan b. Also, the plan is to eat Cthulhu, just to make that clear, not be eaten, just don't tell the other cultists lulz.
~~Cthulhu fhtagn!~~

davidm @davidm
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davidm @davidm
Also, the entire vegan/carnist discussion is a great example of a false dichotomy lmao, and ya'll should move on to something else. Thx. xD
~~Cthulhu fhtagn!~~

Ghost @kuharido
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Ghost @kuharido
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170109-plants-can-see-hear-and-smell-and-respond

Ghost @kuharido
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Ghost @kuharido
As I mentioned they operate in a different way. Their cellular structure is different but they are very much alive.

正義の味方 @gundamu
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正義の味方 @gundamu
can a mod just rename this thread to "Debate veganism"? it's a bit disappointing to come in here and see that the topic has literally never changed to something else. :u
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