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personalmaidservice
Eugenics is absolutely idiotic tbh But then again hypotheticallly yes we could stop people from some long term human race degradation through having everyone in the world have babies in their 20s and shoot certain ppl with diseases until the gene pool rotates out the bad thing then you keep on having people of each race procreate and have them die at a certain age and then increase the number once the age number once the deficiencies of mental and physical rotate out with no exceptions But it’s ridiculous, unviable, and accounts for no nuances as no one can even say who actually gets to dictate the eugenics in a long term flourish. But as I was saying just cause a bunch of people agree doesn’t mean it’s morale it just means that it’s “perceived” as morale
momoichi
Lamby @momoichi commented on debate
Feb 11, 19 at 1:23am
no we are more than just animals we have the highest level of sentients in the animal kingdom, and also the greatest sense of justice animals absolutely agree to social contracts between themselves and even show empathy (i can provide a link to that study, its super interesting) but we as humans are simply at a higher level, so we do show superiority over animals but in the same vein, because we are so advanced and separated from animals, that means we should not reach to there level because we do not need to humans can live perfectly healthy on a vegan diet, there for why eat meat at all? taste pleasure well alright, why does your taste pleasure matter above an animals right to live? we would go to name the trait the trait mio picked was the ability to form an advanced social contract, but i showed how thats deeply flaws leo picked sentients, but thats deeply flawed as well because animals are absolutely sentient meat is more expensive than vegan or vegetarian alternatives, and you dont even need them to be healthy to begin with. when i was vegan it was extremely easy, i just ate more carbs, veggies, fruit, and added in some beans for extra protein people who say its difficult have never put in the time and effort to do it properly sure, you can think its a chore and thats alright, but youd be a hypocrite to not concede that you just dont care about being an ethical person and that you are truly not an animal lover
personalmaidservice
I would say slavery was more of a social contract then Nazism. Legit they fostered an environment to obscure all perceptions at the cost of others through manipulation. No one is actually agreeing to anything except those in power, the rest are braindead to the tree that fell in the forest in front of them because they were told it grew side ways
momoichi
Lamby @momoichi commented on debate
Feb 11, 19 at 1:29am
no actually, eugenics has an extreme benefit to society and it would be simple to implement we can tell nearly every congenital condition while the baby is still in the womb, and we could simply abort it before it is born or, after its born then we just castrate them so they can not pass on their flawed genes one reason why i dont want to create my own children is because my family has a strong genetic tendency for mental illness, and i refuse to pass that down just for my own selfish desire thats a form of eugenics i think xD now why is eugenics bad? it would benefit all of humanity and even lessen the welfare state because empathy >w>/!
momoichi
Lamby @momoichi commented on debate
Feb 11, 19 at 1:31am
nah man, if you look at who fought the hardest against the social contract, it was absolutely abolitionists underground railroad, the fact that the north stopped slavery all together nazi germany had no real resistance going on in the country, and not on the scale of legislature like america did america quenched slavery from the inside, but nazi germany was quenched from the outside in
momoichi
Lamby @momoichi commented on debate
Feb 11, 19 at 1:35am
wait, your saying that the majority of germans did not infact agree with hitler? hitler was an elected official did he kill his opponents? sure, but the fact of the matter is the people LOVED him he was a great public speaker and manipulated the people under a common enemy germany was doing extremely poorly after world war 1, but the jewish businesses thrived this fostered hate in the germans, and hitler himself was fed this anti semitic hate from his father this was some ingrained shit, not like hitler forced himself into power he was a poor dude from an abusive family and he rebirthed the dead political party known as the nazi party
personalmaidservice
Also on the animal I never argued for taste and pleasure I think your to use to giving the same canned response I’ve seen from your side to the same responses the others give. I gave you an argument on evolution and environment as well as it’s unreasonable to try and get everyone to conform, rather just convince who you wanna convince and that’s it. You keep putting saying things I’m not actually inciting tbh, lol. Secondly I think eating as a whole as well as drinking is a chore which is different then eating meat or vegetables. Who’s to say we can’t say fuck veganism and eating meat to go full man made. TBH SUGAR AND BREAD IS BAD THE FOOD TRIANGLE IS BAD everything is bad. I am the third party I will find away to make sweetism a thing (JK) I wouldn’t mind living off of sweet delicious things. Also I have issues with taste and smell and can’t smell and taste accurately or the concept there of is kinda away with me. Salads and all that shit taste horrid to me I h8 it, but so does chicken and all of those things I find disgust in it to. I eat cause I have to tbh. Like sometimes I just don’t eat or forget to eat or not drink anything sometimes (Which is bad)
personalmaidservice
I’m not saying the the majority of Germans didn’t agree with hitler
personalmaidservice
Tbh though we gonna be hit by that world war 3 someday and it won’t be the war we know of
momoichi
Lamby @momoichi commented on debate
Feb 11, 19 at 1:45am
then what makes it not a social contract? the majority agreed that jews were bad, propaganda or no that doesnt matter just proves how flawed social contract can be yeah i was more kinda jumping off what you said into the broader discussion its unreasonable to get people to conform? same could have been said about nazi germany or slavery lots of bad things have been ingrained in society and culture that have also been retracted xD dont appeal to futility well then try different types of vegetables so many different vegetables and fruits out there iv hated salad for the longest time and never ate it when i was vegan lettuce isnt an intrinsic thing you'll need for the diet you eat because you have to but you dont have to eat unethically ;3 cant really appeal to laziness xD not too much of an argument my dude
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