debate

@xueli the thing is beef is very hard to imitate. immitation chicken is pretty spot on, but beef is really hard. the impossible burger from burger king (though it is technically not vegan) was really, really yummy, it had this smokey taste that helped compensate for the lacking beef taste same with beyond burgers in the store, that meat is really good but its not really like beef, it tastes different, but good (super juicy too) i will say gardenia's ground beef is pretty gross and should be avoided, but for the most part mock meats are good, just a bit lacking when compared to real meat

im up for any vegan debates on the grounds of ethics just name the trait that animals lack that allows you to remove their moral consideration

yeah you keep saying second hand shops need to be contracted with these other brands but its just not a thing if it is you gotta show me proof, google it and get back to me

it just doesnt xD stores like goodwill would have to close down if it was but how did this come back to veganism again?

there should exist some kind of financial benefit for the main company...atleast a tax cut for allowing their goods to go on a second hand sale by a company