Who Is "Ruining" America?

oh but i dont need feminism ;P *talking to mr.strawman* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLx8BkKKQbc&t=313s

fuck your "third wave first wave" feminist bullshit feminism is feminism how many feminists have you actually met irl cero?

^ For better or worse she's right. Feminism and feminists have basically the same goals in the past as now. I would submit that most feminists Ive met personally either fundamentally wear the label as a catch-all term for believing in women's rights and did not feel/act too strongly towards it or they were goddamn loons.

people look at the vocal minority too much we arent those sexist, misandrist, victim seekers and you are wrong for believing that narrative and feeding them

You say the vocal minority but I'd say that you're underselling it. Quite a few very atrocious number of actions have been done by feminists. Unless you'd like to invoke the no true scottsman in which case we can stop right now. Besides, I am not just talking about those women who carry an open disdain for men or a desire for victimhood. Though I will say that most feminists Ive met to some degree like to embrace the narrative that women are THE victims and men the oppressors. Nevertheless, you are wrong for assuming that my gripes come from the crazies among feminists. They are troublesome for many reasons but they aren't the only or even the main reason. To the contrary, even some of the more moderate tenants of feminism are things that I disagree with.