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The perplexities of immortality

mariahaise
a) Who should be made immortal? Should artificial selection be utilized to select ideal individuals for the future of humanity? Who gets to decide it? I personally don't think anyone should be made inmortal. Knowing the human tendencies we all have, we know for sure that many people wouldn't take so good having something that'd make them, probably, the most powerful being on Earth. Look at humans right now, look at previous civilizations that probably had the answers to all of our problems and we still don't know how to handle shit with all this technology, neither do we know how to stop the inescapable ending that's been counted around 200 years from now. There ARE going to be some people chosen, maybe the strongest or smartest, but my bet is just on the smartest AND wealthiest. Inmortality, with the world full of corruption as we know it now, it's impossible. If the world was different and we were a hell lot more enlightened than we are right now, mentally, spiritually speaking, it would be a possibility but for some reason, a pretty 'balance' bullshit like reason, we do not hold naturally that power in this universe. Since we know that everything is connected, planned, possible to decipher, what makes you think that for a random chance only one being out of the many animal diversity we know is the one that has the key to an accepted 'inmortality' while lacking a developed brain like ours? Evolution? Balance? Be my guest. b) How do we continue to be immortal amidst a mortal universe? Supposing that someone unlocked the keys to inmortality, regardless the way it would be obtained, I think it's not that much of deal to 'continue' to exist. Along the theories that have formed about the universe, there are plenty, but we sure as hell don't know with all security if the universe actually behaves how we want it to in our little man made books. Basically, I'd rely this one obviously on the understanding of time. What is time for you other than a number that goes directly related in an equation of force, distance, acceleration and mass? It's something we humans created to describe the ending and the beginning of some movement. Yes, probably, but it's also being said by many scientists in the world, including in my country, including this genius dude, that time is just a very unimaginable fraction, depicted as straight line in our minds, of a bigger thing. If we put ourselves outside of the world, galaxies, universe, and think what was time or how it's time since the beggining of things, it would be, represented according to these people, as a big round circunference (of course this applies to Stephen Hawking's idea on the repeating and never ending cicle of the universe's formation). I thought of that once because I personally wanted to think how would be God's existence in our universe's current laws, to be able to comprehend it. But then I saw some other scientist that basically told us to go even further, outside of the universe, in the base of everything, the black matter (not really dark matter no) where the universe spreads on, the so called 'nothing' before the light in the Bible... How do you think time would be measured there? Exactly, the key to eternity is, just as the absence of light is darkness, the absence of time. An immortal being on this Earth wouldn't do nothing to it, just exist. Nothing else would change because the time would probably stop only in said person, they wouldn't suffer, they wouldn't die, everything else would pass, but their bodies won't. Nothing else. c) How do we deal with population and living space issues that arises from it? Now if we are saying that people now are all immortal, then yes, everything will perish, the Earth would be no more, but why is it of any use anyway? As an immortal you don't need to eat, you don't need to drink, you don't live by this universe's laws anymore so, I really don't think this would be a problem. d) When in a person's life should this immortality take effect? Of course, even when it'll already be out of the mainstream, we know for sure that every action in the world has it's consequence. If we are imagining that the person is an immortal by themselves (there wouldn't be a lot of consequencies mentally speaking for a person if the whole world became immortal that I can see now), there are probably going to be several other consequences than I can mention. The person could go insane, could start accepting anti-social behavior due to the lack of comprehension hoped for other people to give. As mentioned above, the person could pretty much go crazy with all the information obtained or as you say which I think is also very possible, the person might just 'wisen' up and accept things. However, if the person alone was immortal, I'm pretty sure that it would be as it was described in some old tales, that want to make things seem more passionate, in which inmortality is never given to the person that wants it, rather than the one that deserves it because it's punishment. The person will never die and meanwhile they would watch their every relative, friendship, relationship partner die. I think immortality for a single person in this world would be hell. Now about the 'Matrix' thing, I suggest you all to do an investigation on how dimensions work. I think the answer is there because we, as 3dimensional beings, do not even fully comprehend how this dimension works. There are several dimensions, countless, infinite. Many possibilities. I have my own opinions on this that I've developed after searching on EVP's and scientists' experiments on the matter, even my own experience. Is quite interesting for a person like me, that has a very good visual-space understanding (not bragging but I kinda do). And also because I'm Christian and I want to explain myself how this God would be more in the 'creator' sense.
neet_one
a) Who should be made immortal? Should artificial selection be utilized to select ideal individuals for the future of humanity? Who gets to decide it? IQ tests. best and brightest etc. b) How do we continue to be immortal amidst a mortal universe? Keep traveling from one galaxy to another before they collide or what have you. c) How do we deal with population and living space issues that arises from it? colonise other worlds. d) When in a person's life should this immortality take effect? Just as the body finishis maturing, no one wants to live for eternity with arthritis or alzheimer's.
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