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Fighting ISIS

kc_watz
Oct 23, 14 at 9:31pm
I read none of that, and I probably never will..
elizan
Oct 23, 14 at 9:38pm
I believe that America should pull out of the Middle East. While at this point it is somewhat inevitable that the United States will be caught up in another pointless war. I believe that United States foreign policy is made to exploit the oppressed. Iraq and Syria are countires with much more history than the United States can ever have, but the American government is a bully. The United States is basically doing the same exact thing the British did to them, quatering armes forces during times if peace, then eventually and miraculously there is a war over some natural resource America probably has. I don't belive in air strikes and I don't believe in beheadings. I do believe that if American foreign policy doesn't change American soldiers will keep dying for ridiculous reasons. I have family in the military, the most terrifying nightmare is them being sent somewhere where they can be blown to bits or beheaded.
yoite
Oct 23, 14 at 9:51pm
I agree with Sugihara. We need to combat them
sugihara
S @sugihara commented on Fighting ISIS
Oct 23, 14 at 9:54pm
Okay. So let's say we don't do anything in the Middle East and cower in our little hole that is North America. ISIS will run rampant and seize control over the entire Middle East. Gas prices will quadruple due to no oil from Kuwait, hundreds of thousands or even millions will die from Islamic Extremism, and then in twenty or so years, we can have another September 11 attack. ;) Anyone remember World War II, when America didn't want to help Europe from Nazi Germany? Yeah that worked out real well. France fell, millions died, and we still ended up fighting anyways when Peal Harbor was bombed. Isolationism does NOTHING. Believing that pulling out will solve anything other than temporarily saving a few American lives is nothing but fallacy. American boots on the ground have been the only thing that has stopped Islamic Extremism, coincidentally, the moment we started leaving is when ISIS came back around.
elizan
Oct 23, 14 at 10:03pm
I know it's not possible for America to pull out. I said it's inevitable. Isolationism is not good, America learned that after the Jacksonian era. What I'm saying is, foreign policy is the cause of this. Especially America's foreign policy in the Middle East and with Muslim populated countries for that matter. The countries most rich with resources are in the Middle East and Africa. These coutries have been exploited for years. Retaliation is natural. While I don't believe in what ISIS does, I don't agree with America either. War is inevitable when you pit Natives against invaders. But that what America is, invaders.
yoite
Oct 23, 14 at 10:14pm
We are liberators. We liberated Kuwait years ago. While I protested the Iraq War, we did liberate them from Saddam (under false pretenses however). We are responsible for the state of Israel existing. We replaced the British and French and Ottomans as overseers. They need us to solve their crises.
elizan
Oct 23, 14 at 10:21pm
No they don't. We "liberate" with a price. Nothing comes for free. I wouldn't call the state Iraq is in liberation. Now they're reliant on America. I believe in Palestine. It's atrocious what has been done to Palestinians for the sake of land. Land and resources are the only reasons America gets involved. Ask the Native Americans...
yoite
Oct 23, 14 at 10:38pm
The Native American issue was a long time ago. Things have changed. And all of Palestine are terrorists. The Jewish State must exist. They've been kicked around for too long, Jews that is. I feel nothing for the Palestinians. The conflict won't end until one group, the Palestinians or the Jews, die. And I want the Jews to live. So too bad, but the Palestinians need to die. As long as they live, there will be bombing and acts of terrorism. They'll never learn. Israel is wholly justified in killing them.
elizan
Oct 23, 14 at 10:47pm
I don't know where you get information from... But you need a book or at least an hour of Rachel Maddow. I respect your opinions, but I will never agree with them, therefore I secede from this conversation. Your beliefs are very one-sided, in my opinion and I hope you respect that.
yoite
Oct 23, 14 at 11:10pm
Oh I love Rachel Maddow. I read a lot. I was a history major at college. I know conflict fought for years over many kinds of hatred never end until one side is vanquished. The Isreali-Palestinian conflict is no different. Name any war and one side died and was destroyed. That's how humans work. Palestine must accept they will be kicked around by the Jews or die. Or they could all relocate to the US. They need to stop this hatred. Or the Jews will kill them. Humans need to learn to stop hating. It leads to death.
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