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Would this qualify as just perverted or harrassment

kawaiidango
Oh we arent friends. oxo In fact I only talked to him once before this I had called him gross He's friends with one of my friends =_=
xueli
Yeah, sometimes guys act like that because they think girls like douchbags so if they act like that girls will flock to them. It's a really faulty way of thinking. I'd just ignore him or if he's persistant, tell your mutual friend that you don't want to hang out with that guy so please don't invite the two of you together
thelg
If you're wearing his shirt, I think he might've took it as you being in a close relationship with him and thus he tought couldve allowed things to proceed the way he mistakenly took them(some guys are like that). The wanting to marry you n stuff is his issue but then again I dont know any of the history. I'd consider it a misunderstanding of boundries and you should clear things up by establishing intentions. Also, he should apologize.
doubt_equals_ammo
"...if what guys want is just sex, they should just outright ask the girl for it then." -xueli :) [we all know that never works on females worthy of a relationship] "...I feel like a lot of guys who complain about giving girls "freebies" aren't understanding is that friendship isn't a precursor to sex. You can't trade in nice points for sex. So while nothing is free in this world, women are equally not carnival prizes" -xueli True, but sex appeal shouldn't be a precurser to friendship, either. @KawaiiAttack: Yes, that's definitely harrassment. BUT @females: Please be aware that you are female, and you have a responsibility that comes along with that. If I have no idea who you are, and you come up to me in a 'cute' way and ask for anything other than the time, while you may only want ice cream, I'm a guy, and it's kind of my job to recieve that as flirting. I file women that flirt with me under the "I want to have sex with you" category. If you do things that are flirtatious, expect this (being filed).
doubt_equals_ammo
Now, I know I'll probably be blacklisted for that previous comment (and the following...), but hear me out... Why am I evil for just wanting to have sex with you? You're an attractive female, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna be all prehistoric about it and club you over the head with a rock. I want an NFL contract, I want a billion bucks, I want to have sex with you. It's just a thought, really. @males: You have women (plural) in mind that you HATE, but would still have sex with, right? @females: Same question (men, though). @all: I'm willing to wager that the answer to the latter question is far fewer than the previous. The point is to illustrate that we're wired differently. @males: There is an art to being direct AND clever...learn it. Don't keep making it difficult for me by ruining our image with caveman tactics. @females: Be mindful of the way you're presenting yourselves to guys AT ALL TIMES. Remember that you can turn us on by doing something as simple as eating ice cream. Cut it out.
xueli
I don't agree with that mentality at all. That kind of thinking is the same behind why some men think all women should wear burkas. If it was like that then what will inevitably happen is that if we're nice to a guy that means we're flirting but if we're not then we're all stuck up bitches. Why should I alter my actions just because you might attach your own personal whatever to it? If you have that thought that whatever I do is either to flirt with you or shun you, great. Keep it to yourself though. When you act on it, that responsibility is all on you
masuji
Umm doubt? Women I dislike I would definitely not have sex with. I'm not a sex machine, I don't objectify women and arbitrarily perceive actions as 'flirting'. Flirting is when the person distinctively plays or teases you because they cannot express their feelings otherwise. YOU are at fault whenever your brain migrates between your legs, not the woman. I control myself, I don't look a pretty woman and automatically think: "I wonder what that cutie does in bed with those legs" or something else straight out of a hentai or porno magazine. If I see a pretty woman, I acknowledge her attractiveness, and if she's interesting enough, I'll talk to her. Blanket statements do you no good in getting your point across. The original poster is in no way at fault because of what happened. Learn some respect, misogyny is shunned in the civilized world.
doubt_equals_ammo
I had a rebuttal, but it just got lost in cyberspace, and I'm not gonna type all that again. I'll keep it short and just reply to posts. -I definitely acknowlegded that it was harrassment. -I have respect. -Blanket statements serve to keep things general and up for debate amongst everyone. It won't single anyone out; you can simply agree or disagree. -I 'quote' great statements/points made that I feel serve as a good base for my point/counterpoint. -I agree with xeuli on the point that I (as a male) should keep it to myself. As clearly stated before THEY'RE JUST THOUGHTS. -I also agree that you shouldn't have to act a certain way because we're around. But you do. We definitely do. It's the same way that 'job interview' you is different than 'hanging out' you. I'll take a dump with the door open and not spray when there's no women around (joke...but truth). -[extreme example to prove a point] You wouldn't walk down a dark alley by yourself with your boob out, would you? Why? You SHOULD BE ABLE TO, but you can't, because you're mindful of idiotic a_holes. The same should apply to how you carry yourself in the presence of the opposite sex. I'M not gonna be the a_hole (honestly, they screw it up for me...), but YOU WILL GET ONE, GARAUNTEED IF YOU FLIRT AROUND. If you haven't already, you're lucky. -Being nice is different from flirting (if you didn't know this, you're not paying enough attention...your proverbial 'boob' is out, and you don't know it).
xueli
I don't think it's accurate to say that the flirty-ness is always the fault of the woman because I know for a fact that many guys attach more sentiment to positive (nice) gestures than it should be. I've been accused of being "flirty" just by treating a guy like I would any other friend. I'm not even the type of person who's very touchy either and I don't make incredibly raunchy or suggestive jokes. After I got tired of having to gently (and not so gently sometimes when the guy just won't take hey I don't like you like that as a rejection), a guy friend told me that it's not a matter of what I'm doing cause I treat everyone the same way, it's just that these particular men are mistaking nice as hey, she's interested in me.
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