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So, to be successful in obtaining a relationship, one must have looks and a personality?

amdarely
I agree with tornadomushroom. I can't have sex with someone that I'm not even remotely attracted to, so I have to base at least the initial introduction off of that.
nearlylost
Exactly, everybody is shallow in a sense, but that doesn't mean that we have to base our attraction on just only that. I would say you have to have a little of both worlds, but don't make just having good looks dominant. Like you said personality is like the icing on the cake, but that can be decieving at a point as well. I mean a blind person can't tell whether a person is good looking or not right?
amdarely
Well, not many people base their relationships purely off of physical attraction. I don't know a single person who has looked at a guy/girl, and completely ignored their personality just because they want to date someone who's hot. Just as I don't know a single person who has dated someone that they have no physical attraction to. And people who are blind, still have preferences on who they date, not via the same ideals as those who can see. But they still have body type preferences, and they still prefer certain facial feature types... Just because you can't see, doesn't completely take away your ability to have preferences on the way that someone looks.
tornadomushroom
Nearlylost, your comment about Blind people. They don't see physical attraction but their senses of Physical Attraction is a lot greater than one who can see. Go look up researches and let your mind be blown o_O. But as AMDarely said, i don't think i know one person who disregards personality and stays with another person just because of their looks. Physical attraction is usually the most dominant when it comes down to attraction in general. As you said yourself, Personality is the "Icing" on the cake, thus meaning that Physical Attraction is the "Cake" and when comparing the Cake and the Icing, the Cake is dominant. No one is saying what is wrong or what is right, we are simply saying... if you don't believe that Physical Attraction plays a role, then you may need to start viewing things from a different perspective :\
nearlylost
And that's completely true. But don't forget there are people out there who do base their attraction based on the fact that someone is "hot" or not. And just to be clear I wasn't using the blind reference as someone who can't physically see who they are attracted to. A blind person can naturally feel whether a person is made for them or not, but on the contrary I would never know because i'm not in their shoes. And of course everybody has their own preferences on what they want to be attracted to, what i'm trying to say is that, just don't be person who based all their attraction on one person by looks, and come to find out this person is the exact opposite of what you wanted.
tornadomushroom
There is nothing wrong with basing their attraction off the fact of someone being "HOT/Beautiful/Gorgeous/Cute" or not. It's going to happen regardless and that's why it's called physical attraction. The first attraction of all is usually and almost always the Physical Attraction first, thus, Looks. We are animals after all and in the wildlife... mating comes from Physical Attraction. It's natural, there is nothing wrong with it, the only problem with it is the fact that it can make or break you. Set your standards too high and you'll never find what you look for. Set it too low and you won't get what you could of had. In the end, as long as everything works out, i'm okay with it. Just don't go around cheating and i'd be happy for everyone lulz.
nearlylost
I literally had another paragraph that i typed but it didn't save....-_-'... but basically what im trying to say is that I neither agree nor disagree with you both, but if push came to shove, I would choose personality over looks, what I have been doing.
xueli
I don't think anyone is saying that being good looking doesn't help or have an effect. I know I said that it doesn't hurt. But, attraction is different for everyone. No one has the exact same image of physical attractiveness. Some things that are attractive to one person isn't for another. That's why I don't believe so much that physical attraction in terms of like facial symmetry and hip to waist ratio is the most important so much as having presence and portraying like confidence.
amdarely
Oh! yeah, that was my original point. Every single person has a different view on what attractive is, which is why you shouldn't worry about being attractive in society's eyes.
tornadomushroom
I'm pretty sure we were all speaking of Physical Attraction in the context that it varies from individual to individual. Which is exactly why it matters because that's the first thing you see. You usually get to see the physical being first before you get to know them. Let alone, you don't really get to know a person that well or their well-being until you're in a relationship with them anyhow. That's where the Make or Break of the relationship happens. Presence and Confidence matters a lot but and as much as i dislike the way the world works, a girl/guy whose a 9/10 with zero confidence and presence would have it MUCH EASIER than a girl/guy whose a 3/10 and have a shit ton of confidence and presence. Physical Attraction is powerful. <--- This is the point I'm making.
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