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muffster
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mioismywaifu
@laughingman yes, there are chromosomal anomalies, but even then (as far as I know at least) people who have Kleinfelter's syndrome still register as male. I'm pretty sure that as long as you have a Y chromosome, you register as male. The idea is not that the categories don't exist, it's that there are people who are exceptions to the rules. For example, if I were to ask you "how many fingers do people have" the response would be "10". Does that mean that everyone is born with 10 fingers? No, some people are born with 11 fingers. Does that mean that humans dont have 10 fingers? No, it just means that there are exceptions to the rules. Same thing can be applied to gender. There are people with chromosomal anomalies, but that doesnt mean that the categories dont exist.
redhawk
Aug 08, 18 at 12:11pm
Muffin be like https://images3.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED162/57235c6932f80.jpeg
crossbones
Two. You can call yourself whatever the hell you want but logically there's two and there's nothing you can do about it. Gender and sex to me are still the same thing. That's how I've been raised and taught in school. None of this clusterfuck nonsense. You can feel girly, boyish or neither but you are still one of the two.
vezax
Aug 08, 18 at 1:39pm
@moismywaifu... i did say in my comment that when u consider motile(sperm) and immotile(ova) gametes they have to be put under male/female irrespective of the sex-chromosomes. And that basis of sex is the core scientific basis because of which klinefelter's and turners are put under male and female and similarly all other chromosomal anomalies can be put under male or female. And about the 'categories with exceptions' u mentioned, they are unscientific and manmade, it is made by humans to study things in a systematic order coz if at any point the exceptions start occurring too commonly then they will get their seperate category which is the case in india :P here klinefelter's(XXY) are quite common so a separate gender has been made for them by the government its called "yunux" :P
mioismywaifu
"they are unscientific and manmade, it is made by humans to study things in a systematic order" Manmade? Yes. Unscientific? Not completely, but to some degree yes. It still acknowledges the different chromosomal makeup between males and females. If you have a Y chromosome, you are male. If you don't, you're female. It's just exactly what you have said: if one exception starts occurring too commonly, maybe there will be a third gender. But alternatively, you could put these anomalies into either the category of male or female, which is what we currently do in America. All that matters is that there is a standard for determining someone's gender. India might have a different method from what is used in America, and that's fine as long as it's consistent. There is a difference between your genetic makeup and what your gender is. A person who has XXY and a person who has XY are both labeled as male because that's just how we determine genders as a society, even though they arent recognized as the same on a biological level. So while there are many different possibilities for what your sex chromosomes are, there are only 2 genders (or in India I guess there are 3). What IS unscientific is when people insist that their gender is something that it isn't, and then continues to insist that people refer to them by their "correct pronouns", as this not only completely ignores biology, but the standard that is used to determine gender.
vezax
Aug 08, 18 at 4:25pm
Yeah i guess unscientific was a wrong term i thought to edit it out but then meh.. what i meant was artificial/man-made and if it was a natural category on the other hand then it wouldn't have any exceptions as it would have a definition which can explain all possible situations(like a mathematical theory). Based on sex-chromosomes and behavioural/social characteristics alone u cannot really categorize klinefelter's as a male or female as they show characteristics of both, they were called hermaphrodites earlier which was later acknowledged as misleading, then they were considered sex-chromosome disorders which was again removed coz it became controversial. So yes in most medical definitions intersex variations like klinefelter's are still not properly kept in a category and is in an ambigous state. Some intersex persons may be assigned and raised as a girl or boy but then identify with another gender later in life, while most continue to identify with their assigned sex so calling them male or exceptions in male gender doesn't really work out coz they dont show characteristics of male either biologically or socially. Most hospitals and locals still label them as male as pk said coz inter-sex variations are very ambigous and since there is no 'other' gender in the artificial category we have no choice but to call them male.
vezax
Aug 08, 18 at 4:35pm
If something is truly a natural category then it wont have american or indian standards based on which the category changes.. it would be universal and human standards should not be able to change it :P motile/immotile gammete based category would be what is closest to a natural category and that is used in identifying sex in other animals, klinefelter's is considered male for now based on that category since even though they have both female and male characteristics they produce little amount of sperm thus coming under the motile category. When i said india has a 3rd gender i actually was trying to show u how the artificial category falls apart easily since different countries have their own standards, Yunux is considered a separate gender here to give them legal rights since no one acknowledged them as male or female and they went under severe discrimination moreover their parents would abandon them the moment they are born.
infernalmonsoon
Dunno if anyone posted this yet but sod it, I love this so much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPMDCJrRpT8
yestotally
2 genders. you can make another category, but not another gender.
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