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so BLM attacked the KKK the other day

kichigai913
BLM didn't attack. There were hispanic. BLM wasn't even there. what the actual FUCK are you talking about?
kichigai913
Also, the KKK started stabbing people with the fucking flag. the one video that was out of a KKK member getting his face field goaled does not bother me. If you're bold enough to walk around admitting you hate "niggers" and that "white supremacy" is a must, be ready to defend that shit. KKK is a hate group, you expected this to end peacefully? EVERY SINGLE TIME THE KKK GO OUT THE GET THEIR ASS BEAT! Do you not remember when they had that *giggle**snort* "March" in NYC in '99? They went like, 2 blocks and had to stop it cause they were getting curb stomped by everyone. Not just black people, EVERYONE was whippin dat ass. Also, if you think, I'ma let some guy, particularly a white guy, walk up to my house, or down the street from me, or anywhere in my presence, and say that niggers need to go back to Africa and that spics are taking all the jobs and chinks own everything and blah blah blah, you clearly don't know me. I'll have 2 .40 Beretta's pointed at your ass. You won't be missed. I'll kill you and everyone who's with you. Freedom of speech and all that is cute. I also, have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. well, your life will be liberated in my pursuit of happiness. Yeah, I may go to jail, fine, but I'll be in jail while you and your friends are 6 feet deep.
xiao_hu
You'll go to prison for first degree murder if you attack them unprovoked. The best way to deal with white supremacists is ignore them. 99% of all people, regardless of race, do not take them seriously. The think is, if you attack them, you're essentially supporting authoritarianism, because you're saying that other people's rights of assembly, association, and speech are worthless. And that I disagree with. Also, for the record, Black Lives Matter has taken advantage of tragedies of teens and young men shot by police and blow in it out of proportion for their own agenda. My friend is a cop, and let me tell you, anytime someone mentions them, it puts everyone on edge. And yes my friend is white but he's a good person who protects everyone. He shouldn't have to worry if he ends up shooting some random gangbanger in the line of duty that a bunch of self-righteous fuckers are going to harass him for PUTTING HIS LIFE ON THE LINE to save people. And for the record I believe both Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown were both unlawfully shot, the first by a vigilante, the latter by a racist cop. I'm not denying this happens. But Black Lives Matter is aggravating the problem instead of helping it. The best way to deal with racism in the country's police force would be to have the President pass an executive order that establishes an investigation system that investigates all shootings by police officers of civilians, and cross checks it with the victim's criminal record, the officer's statements while part of the force, and any social media information. I'm sympathetic to the loss of life that is occurring, but I am not sympathetic to the BLM's methods which are making the problem worse, and I'm not sympathetic to anyone who wishes to shoot someone for saying an unpopular opinion. The US constitution was made to hold EVERYONE accountable to the law of the land. EVERYONE.
kichigai913
Yeah well, I find it funny that everyone ignores the KKK but the Black Panthers had to be forcefully disbanded. I like how mentioning the Black Panthers makes me a racist but I need to give the KKK their fair time to express their hate. FUCK outta here. And you are absolutely right, if you attack them, you get charged with it. Do you know how many people got arrested in the NYC KKK parade? Like, 3 people. 2 of them were white. So yeah, they scare people with that shit but at some point, turning the other cheek doesn't work. When I was being bullied in school for NOT responding to their bullshit or going to the teacher & principal, I was harassed even more. It wasn't until I whipped the kid's ass, got suspended and came back that no one fucked with me. That's how it is. Whenever you see a kid who's getting bullied body slam the bully, or the victim take out the aggressor, you cheer. Yeah, you may get in trouble, but it's worth it. When the Klan went to nyc back in 99 and got their ass beat, they never went back there. I bet after they got their ass beat in Cali they're not revving to do another "parade" any time soon. So yeah, on paper, everyone is suppose to have their right to free speech, expression and all that but it seems like it only applies to people lighter than a paper bag. You ignore the KKK but think making a huge deal of cops and vigilantes killing black people is not helping and you're tired of hearing about it. Well how the fuck do you think I feel? every day I get up worried that I may get shot cause I'm black. I do mean every fucking day. Whenever I pass a cop I don't go, oh yeah, I'm safe. I'm like, Holy shit, are my lights on? do I have my license? should I pull over? should I just drive naturally? and so forth. I don't feel safe with Police. I've been arrested and charged for DUI without having a single drink. I've been arrested for NOT speeding. I've been arrested for NOT fighting. But yeah, police is cool. fuck outta here. I can go on about stories that I personally been thru and you can check out, it's public record. I have zero reason to lie. So yeah, I like the fact that you're getting tired of BLM SHOVING THE BLATANT RACISM IN THE USA. Wanna help? get the fuck off the fence and vote. Don't pull out a phone when you see a cop beating on a black person, help out.
xiao_hu
And I'm sympathetic to those problems, which is why i think there needs to be better accountability. And I did vote today. For Bernie Sanders, because he's the only one that isn't fucking stupid that's running. And I'm sure you feel threatened. I'm not sympathetic in any way to the KKK. But in my case, I feel this country's Constitution needs to be upheld as long as I'm here. If we start letting people beat up people who they don't agree with, even if they're hate groups, it really just is suggesting authoritarianism over democracy, and I don't want that. Self-defense is totally different from beating up someone. I get harassed on a weekly basis by church groups whom I've called on their bullshit. The only time I ever have beaten the fuck out of someone was when they came on my property and threatened my life. And that guy left the scene a bloodied crippled mess. I gave him a compound leg fracture and broke his ribs. And guess what, I was able to get away with self defense, because it was. If I do see a cop beating up on a black person who didn't deserve it I will call him out. Similarly my friend whose a cop already told both his sergeant and his coworkers that if he sees anyone on the force beating someone unprovoked, he'll kick their ass.
vampire_neko
I'm probably just way too cynical, but to go off on a slightly related tangent. Police have to deal with the lowest common denominator of human existence on a daily basis. People who are drunk, drugged and mentally ill. The stress levels can be very high and the psychological impact severe. Combine that with an authoritarian position like that not only attracting some people that want to help make a difference but also people who want that power for immoral reasons to hurt others or make themselves feel powerful. As well as probably not paying well enough for the stress level and the difficulty of finding enough people to fill such positions who are truly qualified and you have a serious problem. The issues have always been there since the beginning but the issues being brought into social awareness since the Rodney King beatings have created more pressure and social unrest. Nothing will fix the problem as it stands. If you make the standards too high, nobody will want to be a police officer and you have a worse personnel shortage. Racism is only a small part of the issue. There are plenty of cops who are trying to do a good job, but you will continue to have issues with bad or corrupt cops or merely cops who are very reactionary and trigger happy from past experience and ptsd. Whether soldier or cop, the human psyche does not deal well with that level of stress on a continuous basis. Your only choices that I see are dealing with the way things are which may not hold together in the long run, invent Robocop or get rid of a traditional police force as we know it. Faith in law enforcement is shattered and coming apart bit by bit.
utaghoul1991
lol and then smh at the hatred for the Black Lives Matters movement around here. Unfortunately, I don't have the constitution or muscles in my fingers to debate people on the internet.
xiao_hu
>Unfortunately, I don't have the constitution or muscles in my fingers to debate people on the internet. I have those days too man. And no, I don't hate the BLM movement. I'm just against the methods they're using and I think there's better ways to confront the problem
oreo717
This kind of a weird topic for me, everyone is hella racist from every single color, people just hate each other in general, i dont fucking get it. I have hispanic friends, white friends, and black friends and they will all from time to time always discriminate on other races. It's also pretty weird to me because even though im straight off Mexico, fresh off the border jumped that shit when i was 13. But my skin color is pretty white, and just last week i went to a local authentic taco shop near my college, and there was these 2 hispanic guys and 1 hispanic girl in a table eating and talking in english, and when I walked in they saw me and started talking in spanish, and they were hella talking shit on me cuss they thought i was american LMAOOO, they were like look at this foking gringo probably taking steroids and has a small dick, and some other stupid shit and laughing at me. I dont get mad anymore as i used to cuss this has happened before in the past, so i was just there standing laughing inside cuss these kids had no fucking idea what was waiting for them. So it was my turn to order my good af tacos and i ordered them in spanish to the lady, and i could just see the 3 guys face's turning pale, and they quickly got hella quite and just dipped in the spot. So they didnt even give me a chance to say whats up </3 and that happens to me all the time it is too funny, sometimes I will have white people talking to me and saying something like "omg there's so many fucking spics here now, they need to go back to fucking mexico, right?" and I'm just like "yea bro dont ever talk to me again" lmao, i dont get mad anymore at stuff like that cuss people dont know any better, i only take action when someone is directly trying to attack me whether its race or not. World peace is a nice dream but its probably never gonna happen <3
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