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Weapon bans that are unreasonable

gudmoore
@Sunbae: I still subscribe to the reasoning that the only thing that stands between freedom and totalitarian tyranny is the 2nd amendment. Every time a people gives their government say so about their use of weapopnry, it ends badly. To name some examples of government leaders who took advantage of it to bend their nations: Hitler, Mao, Amin, Mussolini. “From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that is good.” - George Washington.
rainx
Jul 16, 16 at 10:57am
I don't think all gun laws are bad. Increased background checks and anyone on the suspected terror list (something even Trump supports) not being able to purchase weapons is a good thing. That all being said, if someone wants to do some harm, they're going to find a way to get a gun one way or another, either legally or illegally regardless of what gun bans are in place.
cinnamoon
I can't imagine ever wanting a gun and I don't understand why other Americans get so worked up over their "right" to have one. In Japan, people can't have guns unless it's for hunting or they're antiques and everyone seems to get along fine. Well, until some kid with a god complex picks up a Death Note.
yamadaed
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kawaiicat
America doesnt have a gun problem, we have a violent culture problem. For example, movies and certain music promote violence all the time, with even more underlying issues behind those.
loli_vampire
@kawaiicat, violent culture isn't caused by movies and video games (though it doesn't help much with kids growing up with it), violent movies and games are created to appeal to a culture that is already violent. The shear number of available guns make it much easier for people who already have violent tendencies to express that anger in a fatal manor. But I do agree America has a violent culture problem.
alanzd
@Gud Firstly, I want to apologize for this hugeeeee delay. I was subscribed to the sexy thread and it pushed your notification all the way down. I did not mean to be rude T-T But back on topic. There are also many examples that are the opposite to that. Such as the Japanese (not talking about feudal era), Australia, France. In my opinion, the notion of firearms being the purpose to protect yourself from a totalitarian government is a bit irrational. If they wanted to commit to a government take over, we'd be screwed regardless. @Rain I agree with you 100%, but, I do want to expand on your thoughts. If guns were illegal and they wanted to do harm, there are many other more "effective" (mathematically and economically speaking) ways to do damage other than utilizing firearms. Chemical bombs, IEDs, vehicles. @Cinn it's a bit difficult for me to explain "why" Americans want firearms because I'm sure my reasoning is a lot more personal. I apologize for not being able to. But what I CAN do is the Japan vs. America thing and why gun laws don't change much in Japan. The majority of gun deaths that happen in America are self inflicted. Meaning, suicide. Suicide has also claimed the highest amount of victims of any violent crime in America. Well, Japan's suicide rate is completely off the charts. In terms of USA vs. Japan, I do think it is more of a mental health issue than a "one has guns and one doesn't" issue. @Kawaiicat (love the avatar btw <3) I do think it is a little bit of both. But, American culture is one that glorifies violence a lot more than almost any first world country. Hell, I'd even say that they glorify violence more than ANY first world country. @Loli I mean I feel like movies and video games do have an influence. The only thing I can compare it to is anime, so give me a chance haha! This is going to be bad. So, we watch anime and we purchase anime merchandise because we like it, right? We like moe girls, overly sexy men, people with extremely exaggerated body parts. So just shift anime to like Rambo and Robocop. Needless to say, that was the "thing" back in the generation before mine. They were anything but peaceful and they used firearms.
mrzsfo415
I am gonna put in my 2cents here ... I won't consider myself a GUN-NUT ... I do however own a handgun for home defense I also have a Ruger 10/22 for FUN/target shooting/plinking ... I guess I am not the typical NRA member . . .
cinnamoon
@Sunbae When I say they seem to be getting along fine, I was mostly talking about how the chances of someone walking into a school, movie theater, nightclub, etc. and killing several dozen people within the span of a few minutes is pretty much zilch in Japan. Here in the US, it's something to be reasonably afraid of.
kawaiicat
thats because japan is full of japanese people with a culture thats different than that of the US, you know.
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