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hell_hound7

They made the dude crawl on the ground

xinmage
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It was all according to plan. The 4th impact cannot be stopped.

verucassault

My problem with that video is that the guy says several times he wants to remain silent but continues talking to the police. The cops continue talking to him and he continues responding. The easiest way to deal with cops is to comply with all their requests and if you do not want to incriminate yourself vocalize you wish to remain silent. Say nothing more. The ACLU website says some states require you at least provide a name for documentation. That's it. No back and forth. SAY.NOTHING.MORE.

It sucks and it's an incredible inconvenience, especially if they take you to jail to further detain you, but you have to ask yourself if asking questions and resisting is worth losing your life over.

You can ask questions, but even from personal experiences with cops, I know that it's not the best mode of handling these situations. Do I think cops need more training? Yes. Especially when it's the officer's jobs to de-escalate situations and they cannot even do that with law-abiding citizens. I don't think all cops are bad, but I do think many of them are assholes and all of them could use more training.

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/stopped-by-police/

Your rights
You have the right to remain silent. For example, you do not have to answer any questions about where you are going, where you are traveling from, what you are doing, or where you live. If you wish to exercise your right to remain silent, say so out loud. (In some states, you may be required to provide your name if asked to identify yourself, and an officer may arrest you for refusing to do so.)
You do not have to consent to a search of yourself or your belongings, but police may pat down your clothing if they suspect a weapon. Note that refusing consent may not stop the officer from carrying out the search against your will, but making a timely objection before or during the search can help preserve your rights in any later legal proceeding.
If you are arrested by police, you have the right to a government-appointed lawyer if you cannot afford one.
You do not have to answer questions about where you were born, whether you are a U.S. citizen, or how you entered the country. (Separate rules apply at international borders and airports as well as for individuals on certain nonimmigrant visas, including tourists and business travelers. For more specific guidance about how to deal with immigration-related questions, see our immigrants’ rights section.)

hell_hound7

Thats the thing i dont think complying is a bad thing unless it infringes on your rights. Not everyone sees being police as a righteous task and just a job and you not complying makes the job harder. But when they purposely absue their power in the case of the army dude who got pepper sprayed for stating he did not wish to step out of the vehicle out of fear for his life. Im all for giving information. If i were ever to be pulled over i would hand off any info they want immediately. But i would sure as hell tell them "hey im reaching for this, i dont have any weapons on me" incase they get trigger happy.

verucassault

I watched the army guy video and I believe the reason why the cops were so heated is because he put on his hazards and drove to a better lit place. I have no problem with that, and they should have understood why someone would want to do this. I think they were overly aggressive for it, but what didn't help the situation is that the military officer continuously kept asking questions instead of complying with them. It does not matter if he's in the military and an officer, though I honestly would have expected them to change their tune a bit once they saw what he was wearing and by getting that information. (Again, they need more training.) But his continously questioning their motives and not complying with what they wanted him to do is what escalated it further. The ACLU website states it's not the citizen's job to de-escalate situations but people have got to start using common sense.

Citizens should be allowed to ask questions, but cops aren't going to like it.

mikihiko
Apr 21, 21 at 1:40pm

These days most cops are corrupt. If you didnt do anything wrong. You dont have to answer anything. And I would video tape that mofo cop see how he reacts.

I've been pulled over twice. But havent gotten a ticket or anything. Because the fucking cops admitted that I didnt do anything wrong. They still gave me a warning though lol

verucassault

I don't think they are corrupt. Maybe in urban areas. I think more-so, and worse than corruption, they are on power trips, live on adrenaline, and all the training they are receiving now does not prevent them from being the hugest dicks on the planet.

mountain_tiger

I think the "police issue" will only get worse as time goes on. I imagine veteran officers will be quitting in large numbers like last year. This will cause reduced manpower in many inner city departments, which will put pressure on police departments to quickly recruit new numbers to compensate for the loss. Combining a new generation of inexperienced and nervous police officers with increased cultural hostility to police across the nation, and I expect more confrontations between civilians and law enforcement.
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hell_hound7

I want all the officers to quit. Here is why, you never know what you have until its gone. This whole fuck the police movement where they spit at police and attack them we need something like a mass resign. Things have to get bad before they can get good at this point. You see this in places where tonsnof police have quit dude to police defunding and then the state turns around like no no no we actually need officers. I want people to learn from this. So many entitled children wanting to get mad at the police like they are some magical fucking entity and not just normal humans who wear a uniform and badge. So yeah i say quit.

verucassault

^Gun sales would go up. You think ammunition is expensive now? But hey, maybe that's what all the resigning police could do for work afterward- go work at munitions plants.

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